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UK threaten to enter Ecuadorian embassy and arrest Julian Assange

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Re: UK threaten to enter Ecuadorian embassy and arrest Julian Assange

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Isn't that basically an act of war? Or something just short of it? I can't remember another time when one country threatened to enter another country's embassy without an invitation... Have there been other cases like this in recent history??

They must really want to know if Assange used a condom.

Re: UK threaten to enter Ecuadorian embassy and arrest Julian Assange

#22

Isn't that basically an act of war? Or something just short of it? I can't remember another time when one country threatened to enter another country's embassy without an invitation... Have there been other cases like this in recent history??

I can't remember another time when a country used the diplomatic immunity of their embassy to harbor a fugitive from rape charges. We're in fairly uncharted territory.

Fair point. It just struck me that this seems a bit unprecedented.

Re: UK threaten to enter Ecuadorian embassy and arrest Julian Assange

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I would use the same terms to describe any fugitive on the run from rape charges. What on earth does Sweden have to gain or lose from this? This is just conspiracy theory.

The problem with the Swedish police and legal system is seldom that they do bad things. The problem is rather that the employees doesn't get much done except drink coffee and administrate.

There is another possibility: Theoretically, both the women might be paid by CIA when Assange is extradited for questioning. But that is just another stupid conspiracy theory.

Edit: Clarity.

Edit 2: It is hard to take the arguments seriously, since Assange originally went to Sweden voluntarily without fearing extradition to USA. Wikileaks should just get a saner guy as front figure.

Re: UK threaten to enter Ecuadorian embassy and arrest Julian Assange

#24

If the UK really is threatening that, then that is more evidence that the Swedish charges are politically motivated rather than being from an actual crime.

Granting someone asylum is a politically motivated act, wanting to arrest someone who's in breach of their bail conditions - not so much.

Re: UK threaten to enter Ecuadorian embassy and arrest Julian Assange

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If the UK really is threatening that, then that is more evidence that the Swedish charges are politically motivated rather than being from an actual crime.

Or he is someone who flees from serious charges and the British authorities don’t want to look like idiots in front of the whole world because they can’t do something simple like extradite him.

Why is there this willingness to believe everything this idiot says? He’s a pompous ass, pure and simple. No conspiracy required.

Meanwhile the idea of an anonymous leaks platform dies because everyone focuses on his stupid antics.

Re: UK threaten to enter Ecuadorian embassy and arrest Julian Assange

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Bizarre. The usual script for these kinds of things is a standoff where the host country denies passage out of the embassy, so the person being harbored in the embassy is stuck there until either that person gives up, the embassy gives them up, or some kind of deal for passage or exchange is struck. Threatening to the invade the embassy isn't usually on the table, at least in peacetime.

Re: UK threaten to enter Ecuadorian embassy and arrest Julian Assange

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: "The law which Britain is threatening to invoke in the Assange case is the Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act 1987. It allows the UK to revoke the diplomatic immunity of an embassy on UK soil, which would potentially allow police to enter the building to arrest Mr Assange." If they do that it wouldn't be an act of war, it would be legal. It definitely sets a terrible precedent though and even if i…

Do you honestly believe Ecuador will initiate hostilities against NATO in order to protect a foreign citizen from due legal process in that persons home country? It would surely be less effort and risk to lift him from the roof by helicopter and whisk him to a waiting jet James Bond style. The second option seems far more likely to me.

There's what you say and what you do. I wouldn't be surprised if they called it an act of war. However, a violent response is highly unlikely.

Re: UK threaten to enter Ecuadorian embassy and arrest Julian Assange

#29

If the UK really is threatening that, then that is more evidence that the Swedish charges are politically motivated rather than being from an actual crime.

>that is more evidence that the Swedish charges are politically motivated //

Can you explain this? In what way is it evidence in regards to the Swedish charges.

Based on recent cases of extradition to the USA examination of the charges is not made locally?

Re: UK threaten to enter Ecuadorian embassy and arrest Julian Assange

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If the UK really is threatening that, then that is more evidence that the Swedish charges are politically motivated rather than being from an actual crime.

The UK has a legal obligation to hand him over to Sweden per treaty. If they are to follow the law, rather than just make stuff up as they go along like a banana republic, then the legal apparatus in the UK has no discretion under which they can allow Assange to leave.
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