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We know a little more about Amazon's satellites

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Re: We know a little more about Amazon's satellites

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I wonder what "earth observation" opportunities there would be with such megaconstellations, from simply having a camera with a telephoto lens pointed down to a giant, sky-spanning Synthetic Aperture Radar utilizing multiple satellites. Anything like that would explain the secrecy...

The observation cadence could be game-changing. Instead of once-, twice- daily revisit times, in principle you could contemplate continuous observation, of large parts of the Earth, from LEO, with enough downstream bandwidth to make interesting use of all that data.

Re: We know a little more about Amazon's satellites

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It’s not big corps. Interns. Student projects. I make software typically used in the space industry and our customers are surprisingly small, just s dozen people each time. Startups, half of them funded by the EU startup funds. The kilogram in orbit is supposed to go down to $1000, and everyone’s joking that it becomes affordable to send a turd to space “for the lulz”. It’s literally the case. Ariane 5G is already do…

I see a minimum price of $325k

I don't think a student is going to be able to afford that any time soon

Re: We know a little more about Amazon's satellites

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It’s not big corps. Interns. Student projects. I make software typically used in the space industry and our customers are surprisingly small, just s dozen people each time. Startups, half of them funded by the EU startup funds. The kilogram in orbit is supposed to go down to $1000, and everyone’s joking that it becomes affordable to send a turd to space “for the lulz”. It’s literally the case. Ariane 5G is already do…

I see a minimum price of $325k I don't think a student is going to be able to afford that any time soon

I think it’s cheaper for student groups. If you google “student club sends satellite” you get a bunch of examples,

https://globalnews.ca/news/9818771/university-of-saskatchewa...

https://news.northeastern.edu/2024/09/16/satellite-developme...

https://www.utoronto.ca/news/launch-its-first-satellite-stud...

etc

Re: We know a little more about Amazon's satellites

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I wonder how competition will play out against StarLink. People just choose which billionaire they like better?

Nah, people will chose on price, reliability, price, speed, price and free gigas.

Ah, yes. A low barrier to entry market with many competitors, like ISPs, cell phone companies, etc.

Uh oh.

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Progress tends to have downsides. Highways and rail tracks destroy the environment and make areas hard to cross, but I think most people would acknowledge that on balance, having them them is a good thing. In this case, the obvious solution would be to provide a small number of orbital observatories to the astronomy community for free or with heavily subsidized pricing.

You could turn that around. Progress in Earth bound astronomy has the downside of less satellite internet.

I'm fairly certain that Earth-based astronomy predates artificial satellites by at least a few years.

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These have to de orbit at end of life. Junkyard might be the wrong analogy. More like busy workyard. Or highway.

burning the ozone layer in every reentry. ah the marvel of offset costs.

Satellite constellations account for a negligible 0.01% of human ozone depletion. It's viral misinformation that there's a rallying-cry issue here.

Re: We know a little more about Amazon's satellites

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I wonder what "earth observation" opportunities there would be with such megaconstellations, from simply having a camera with a telephoto lens pointed down to a giant, sky-spanning Synthetic Aperture Radar utilizing multiple satellites. Anything like that would explain the secrecy...

The observation cadence could be game-changing. Instead of once-, twice- daily revisit times, in principle you could contemplate continuous observation, of large parts of the Earth, from LEO, with enough downstream bandwidth to make interesting use of all that data.

Ive seen a video around 2005 about USA spy satellites/drones where they kind of disclosured what was possible at this time. Having a very wide area with realtime object/person tracking and multiple terrabytes of data every minute while beeing able to go back in time with all this features.

This all was like 20 years go. 20. 20!!

Than I see my upper consumer grade canon camera, a r6mkII with 70-200mm lens (mk1, 20 years old) that is able to make a photo of some dog in high speed motion, with a 1/800 shutter with 200mm while its dawn and you are still perfectly able to zoom into the photo and see and identify a midget [1]

1: https://i.imgur.com/9eE1zKe.png

Re: We know a little more about Amazon's satellites

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Probably few. The US has excellent observers and comms sats by the dozens are not very big. It's true you can get some photos but the kind you're thinking of, where you can track vehicles in a meaningful way or something, has to be done by something closer to the hubble telescope (pointed backwards).

Even if it would just deliver 1 or even just 10 meter resolution, I would imagine the high revisit frequency would make it commercially valuable, and potentially also provide some value to military/intelligence groups because it would make it harder to hide activity through careful timing and the data would come with fewer secrecy requirements. And I have no clue what is doable with SAR, but I'd imagine multiple sate…

Other companies do this already, and better. E.g. Planet.
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