Sigh, not that I expected anything else from Apple at this point but of course they only change the rules for the US.
Apple App Store guidelines remove ban on encouraging external payments in US
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#22Apple store needs to die. We have the web.
Ironically the App Store only exists because of the ridicule Apple received when they announced their new smartphone which then only supported 3rd party applications as web apps. Back then, native apps were considered a “must have” feature for smartphones. How times have changed.
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#23Sigh, not that I expected anything else from Apple at this point but of course they only change the rules for the US.
Presumably they are planning to appeal so want to minimize impacted apps when they hope to make everyone undo all the changes later. If it sticks it is hard not to imagine it becoming global, since the app store tax issue has become a topic of concern in like a dozen countries now.
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#24Apple store needs to die. We have the web.
Ironically the App Store only exists because of the ridicule Apple received when they announced their new smartphone which then only supported 3rd party applications as web apps. Back then, native apps were considered a “must have” feature for smartphones. How times have changed.
Android ecosystem deals just fine with native apps being distributed in .apk format which can just easily be installed by the user clicking on the file. Why cant this happen on Apple devices too?
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just like the internet. We don't need Apple to make tens of billions of dollars out of pretending to filter it.
This is going to save us all money. It’s a good thing for everyone but Apple.
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#26I don't get it. Why is Apple changing this in the US now? Is it because the allegation of them lying under oath and being subjected to a criminal review? If so, how does this change absolves them or minimises their fate during the upcoming criminal trial against them?
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulat...
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Only section 3.1 of the App Review Guidelines changed. Everything else is still the same.
[EDIT:] nextworddev has now edited their post to say "Lol". Originally, the post said that this would open up the floodgates to scam apps.
nextworddev also replied me, in a now deleted comment, saying "lol HN has gone downhill".
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#28Sigh, not that I expected anything else from Apple at this point but of course they only change the rules for the US.
In either case, this thing will die with a whimper, not a bang. Apple will have to concede to EU and it would not surprise me if other large markets will demand the same.
So the stage is changing. Apple could have flown under the radar and made concessions with terms they could dictate, letting them simplify their offerings across the world without attracting regulators and mega-lawsuits (and hear me out - maybe focus on products and innovation instead). Now, they fight against multiple jurisdictions at once, which all have different requirements (obviously, since they are different bodies). Even if they fold now, by reducing the tax and making more lenient rules, they’re too late. They already have regulators and judges dictating for them what to do, so their agency is permanently limited.
People forget that in the EU, the ”gatekeeper status” wasn’t just ”go after Apple and Google”. It was the App Store specifically. For instance, Gmail was evaluated but not included.
TLDR Apple has to sleep in a bed that they shat in themselves. They were universally popular and could get away with lots of questionable behavior, but instead angered everyone and are rightfully getting curfewed.
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#29In the same article: 3.1.1 In-App Purchase: If you want to unlock features or functionality within your app, (by way of example: subscriptions, in-game currencies, game levels, access to premium content, or unlocking a full version), you must use in-app purchase. Apps may not use their own mechanisms to unlock content or functionality, such as license keys, augmented reality markers, QR codes, cryptocurrencies and cr…
Why not? I'd personally never go somewhere else to pay for your subscription or content. Maybe if you were a big time player that didn't have an appealing alternative, like Netflix. But for the average app, like Planta or Breethe, I'm just switching to an app that has an in app purchase if yours doesn't. Semi-related, but I also always pick an app that has family sharing of subscription over one that doesn't too (Hea…
But, with these rules, I guess the goal is that I have to send them a gift card instead? I'll just not bother and get them something else.
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#30I don't get it. Why is Apple changing this in the US now? Is it because the allegation of them lying under oath and being subjected to a criminal review? If so, how does this change absolves them or minimises their fate during the upcoming criminal trial against them?
So this change is just apple complying with 1.