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JRE & JDK now available to OS X developers

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Re: JRE & JDK now available to OS X developers

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Post by lnguyen »

daniellockard wrote: post #9
lnguyen wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oracle downloads rely on a cookie being set after agreeing to the license. You'll need to start off here: JRE: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7... JDK: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7...

Worked just fine clicking the link to the DMG.

You may have an existing license-acceptance cookie depending on what else you might have done. Clear any oracle cookies and try again. You'll run into a fail page.

(I've worked on scripting JDK installs so have had to go around this by coding the cookie into curl and wget calls)

Re: JRE & JDK now available to OS X developers

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Post by osener »

I'm not sure what is the news here, I've been using OS X for five months and one of the first things I did was to get JDK from Oracle. I understand that Apple has stopped distributing it and Oracle will be the standard source to get JRE and JDK but I don't get how it was unavailable before this press release. Am I missing something? Otherwise title is misleading.

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Post by osener »

morganpyne wrote: post #20

Does anybody know how to integrate this into OSX so that it is known to the Java Preferences app ? (/Applicatons/Utilities/Java Preferences.app)

I've been using Oracle supplied JDK in the last five months and it's been always present there: http://cl.ly/image/07422e283m0G

Re: JRE & JDK now available to OS X developers

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Post by morganpyne »

osener wrote: post #23
morganpyne wrote: post #20

Does anybody know how to integrate this into OSX so that it is known to the Java Preferences app ? (/Applicatons/Utilities/Java Preferences.app)

I've been using Oracle supplied JDK in the last five months and it's been always present there: http://cl.ly/image/07422e283m0G

Thanks. I had only installed the JRE. When I installed the JDK it showed up in there for me too.

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Post by nevster »

kodablah wrote: post #5

Here I am hoping for something like project jigsaw (or something else) to make it easy to modularize my applications and redistribute/install only the JRE pieces I need, and then I read "Starting with this release, JavaFX is now fully integrated into Oracle's Java SE implementation" So much for a less bloated runtime. I confess I am not sure how big of a size impact JavaFX has (and I'm reasonably sure it has no runti…

At this point jigsaw won't even be in Java 8 - it's been bumped to Java 9 - think 2015...

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Post by ryannielsen »

jpxxx wrote: post #8

Apple's already removed their own JRE from default OS X installs, demand-loading it only with explicit user authorization. Furthermore they've sent out recent security updates partially disabling applet loading in web browsers and disabling the JVM entirely if it hasn't been used in a long while. I think that the next step of completely shuttering Apple's JRE demand-loader will be a straight-up security win for most…

Photoshop and other Adobe apps have components written in Java. Without Java, those components will silently fail. Thus, the on-demand Java installation hooks will be present for as long as current versions of CS are supported on OS X. For reference, Adobe CS 3, released 5 years ago, is still supported by Mountain Lion: http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/faq.html#a139_12...

I suspect the on-demand Java installation process will be around for quite some time.

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Post by pjmlp »

kodablah wrote: post #5

Here I am hoping for something like project jigsaw (or something else) to make it easy to modularize my applications and redistribute/install only the JRE pieces I need, and then I read "Starting with this release, JavaFX is now fully integrated into Oracle's Java SE implementation" So much for a less bloated runtime. I confess I am not sure how big of a size impact JavaFX has (and I'm reasonably sure it has no runti…

For the time being OSGi seems to be the only viable solution.

Re: JRE & JDK now available to OS X developers

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Post by pjmlp »

meta8609 wrote: post #10

What would I gain over Java6? I don't use java for anything, except, I have a couple of apps on my machine that make use of it.

As a user it only makes sense to keep up with security updates, to use applications that depend on Java 7, the JIT compiler is also faster.

As a developer, even if some features got postponed to Java 8, it still has lots of nice new features to get your hands on.

Re: JRE & JDK now available to OS X developers

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Post by Zirro »

_djo_ wrote: post #12

Note that the JRE installs to /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin only, so it cannot easily be used by Java desktop applications and appears to be for applets only. It also installs a System Preferences plugin that opens up a custom Swing-based settings panel that looks awful on a Retina MBP. It tries to replicate the look of the standard Apple Java Preferences app, but is confusing because it doesn't…

"...custom Swing-based settings panel that looks awful on a Retina MBP."

For those of us without Retina MBP's, could you upload a screenshot?

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