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YC founder points out that jobs exist outside of working for police state

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Re: YC founder points out that jobs exist outside of working for police state

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Post by va1a »

minimaxir wrote: post #3

The replies to the tweet itself ( https://x.com/paulg/status/1913338841068404903 ) are pretty much what you'd expect for modern Twitter/X.

Every now and then since deleting my account I click on a link to an X post and am reminded I can't read the replies, and then I am thankful again to my past self for deleting my account. I urge everyone to delete the app and their accounts, realistically there are just much better sources of information nowadays. It's not worth the mental headache to get your news from X, which recently honestly hasn't even been good at delivering it.

Re: YC founder points out that jobs exist outside of working for police state

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Post by ujkhsjkdhf234 »

d1str0 wrote: post #5

Who would you prefer filling the ranks at a company like Palantir? 1. People who are sympathetic to these concerns, and more likely to change thinking from within or whistleblow if needed. 2. Everyone left over who are pro police state and fascism? OP’s post would only fill Palantir with the second group. This seems more dangerous than to fill it with a diverse crowd.

Nobody. A company like Palantir doesn't need to exist and people don't need to work for it.

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Post by jmyeet »

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. And since labor is coercive, there is no ethical labor under capitalism either.

There are degrees and Palantir is not a great one. Working on the Project Auschwitz is not something I’d want on my conscience or resume.

But you’re largely fooling yourself if you work in tech and think you’re removed from this. Big tech are defense contractors.

Working on AI? You’re directly or indirectly working on the surveillance state.

Or maybe you’re working on the US healthcare and insurance sector.

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Post by bbqfog »

croes wrote: post #15
bbqfog wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Palantir is the police state. They are not redeemable, as they are fulfilling their original mission. I urge people to see what the founders say on X, chilling.

But we need whistleblowers inside.

Palantir should simply not exist and the executives should be tried for war crimes.

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Post by ujkhsjkdhf234 »

jmyeet wrote: post #23

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. And since labor is coercive, there is no ethical labor under capitalism either. There are degrees and Palantir is not a great one. Working on the Project Auschwitz is not something I’d want on my conscience or resume. But you’re largely fooling yourself if you work in tech and think you’re removed from this. Big tech are defense contractors. Working on AI? You’re dire…

People tell themselves this to make themselves feel better about the horrible consequences of the choices they make but like you said, there are degrees, many more degrees than you might think. You should understand what the work you are putting out into the world is doing no matter where you work but I would not feel good working for Palantir or any company that directly aides them.
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