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I won't be vibe coding anymore: a noob's perspective

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Re: I won't be vibe coding anymore: a noob's perspective

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Post by caseyy »

isoprophlex wrote: post #9
billy99k wrote: post #5

"that’s when it struck me. coding isn’t about the finished product. its a lot like writing. its about the process. its about how you approach a problem. its critical thinking." From a business perspective, they don't care about this. They just want it built as inexpensively as possible in a reasonable time frame. Vibe coding is here to stay.

Vibe coding is a death trap for juniors just starting out, as it kills critical thinking and understanding what a computer is. And a guaranteed paycheck for people with the experience to clean up the resulting messes. I hope...

Vibe coding is what I’m selfishly expecting to take out many projects and keep my principal level swe skills in demand. Someone will have to mop all the vibes up when it’s time to deliver products.

Re: I won't be vibe coding anymore: a noob's perspective

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Post by prophesi »

spiderice wrote: post #8

To each their own, of course. But > what was the point of it all if i didn’t learn a thing? Money. Freedom. Supporting a family. Doing things faster. Keeping up with changing times. etc.. There are a ton of different answers, and it depends on your goals. > coding isn’t about the finished product Again, to each their own.

> what was the point of it all if i didn’t learn a thing?

As a senior software engineer, AI still surprises me with concepts I didn't know about from time to time. I think spending the time to grok the code it generates is about as invaluable as the code's functionality.

As in the past, however, nothing's stopping people from copy-pasting code found online and never improving their internal toolkit. AI will not only uphold that status quo, but amplify it exponentially.

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

billy99k wrote: post #5

"that’s when it struck me. coding isn’t about the finished product. its a lot like writing. its about the process. its about how you approach a problem. its critical thinking." From a business perspective, they don't care about this. They just want it built as inexpensively as possible in a reasonable time frame. Vibe coding is here to stay.

> From a business perspective, they don't care about this.

Makes sense. Many businesses lately are churning out awful software that barely functions. Maybe if they were willing to support proper engineering that would be less of an issue.

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Post by boredemployee »

billy99k wrote: post #5

"that’s when it struck me. coding isn’t about the finished product. its a lot like writing. its about the process. its about how you approach a problem. its critical thinking." From a business perspective, they don't care about this. They just want it built as inexpensively as possible in a reasonable time frame. Vibe coding is here to stay.

As I’ve been saying, many companies already expect you to use an LLM to speed up coding. Tasks now can be shipped in hours, not days or weeks.

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

prophesi wrote: post #22
spiderice wrote: post #8

To each their own, of course. But > what was the point of it all if i didn’t learn a thing? Money. Freedom. Supporting a family. Doing things faster. Keeping up with changing times. etc.. There are a ton of different answers, and it depends on your goals. > coding isn’t about the finished product Again, to each their own.

> what was the point of it all if i didn’t learn a thing? As a senior software engineer, AI still surprises me with concepts I didn't know about from time to time. I think spending the time to grok the code it generates is about as invaluable as the code's functionality. As in the past, however, nothing's stopping people from copy-pasting code found online and never improving their internal toolkit. AI will not only…

> As a senior software engineer, AI still surprises me with concepts I didn't know about from time to time.

Example?

Re: I won't be vibe coding anymore: a noob's perspective

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Post by captainkrtek »

Using AI to assist in locating the right library function or similar to documentation has been effective to speed up my development, but I really dislike using it to autocomplete whole functions or large swathes of code, because then I have to spend time reading and understanding code I didn't write. This doesn't ultimately feel "faster" when I own what I write.

Re: I won't be vibe coding anymore: a noob's perspective

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Post by cosmotic »

billy99k wrote: post #5

"that’s when it struck me. coding isn’t about the finished product. its a lot like writing. its about the process. its about how you approach a problem. its critical thinking." From a business perspective, they don't care about this. They just want it built as inexpensively as possible in a reasonable time frame. Vibe coding is here to stay.

I can't remember the last time I had a "reasonable time frame" to build something for a business.

Re: I won't be vibe coding anymore: a noob's perspective

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Post by [deleted] »

billy99k wrote: post #5

"that’s when it struck me. coding isn’t about the finished product. its a lot like writing. its about the process. its about how you approach a problem. its critical thinking." From a business perspective, they don't care about this. They just want it built as inexpensively as possible in a reasonable time frame. Vibe coding is here to stay.

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