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Serverless Is a Scam

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Re: Serverless Is a Scam

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Post by acdha »

huksley wrote: post #8

I really loved serverless for while, particularly in the early days, when building small projects. But AWS Lambdas, for example, is constant maintenance hell for larger applications, including building and dependency issues, debugging and slow deployment. One feat is still amazes me - my AWS Lambda React webapp example (Todo with server rendering) which were deployed in 2019, still works as today, and I have not chan…

> AWS Lambdas, for example, is constant maintenance hell for larger applications, including building and dependency issues, debugging and slow deployment.

Maintenance hell is a symptom of the frameworks in use, not Lambda. If you’re using stable tools, you can go years before doing a 5 minute runtime update and then go years.

Debugging and deployment speed are a stronger argument - the best balance I’ve found is to mandate modular design and local development so developers can work locally except when they are troubleshooting environmental interactions. Framework complexity also matters here - if you’re deploying a heavyweight app using AWS SAM your deployments will be at least 1-2 orders of magnitude slower than a simple Lambda.

Re: Serverless Is a Scam

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Post by cassianoleal »

yesnomaybe wrote: post #19

I run a few serverless stacks on AWS Lambda, have been for years and slept well all the time. Serverless is forgiving. Things heal and don't stay dead like it can happen with anything that carries state like a container. That said, I do prefer the development model of containers. Run them anywhere. That said, has it's own limitations. For example, he claims to be able to run state within container. Doesn't make sense…

> anything that carries state like a container

Containers don't carry state. They can be made to do so if you wish but there's nothing inherent to them that does it.

> in bigger orgs the standard will probably be K8s. And that has nothing to do any more with the simplicity of containers as mentioned in the article.

K8s can be very simple if there's a platform team ensuring great developer experience. I appreciate that this is likely rarer than you or I would like though.

Re: Serverless Is a Scam

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Post by 0manrho »

zuck_vs_musk wrote: post #4

Seems like a pitch for sliplane to me.

Agreed, this is a thinly-veiled ad for sliplane, even if I generally agree with the sentiment regarding serverless (though wouldn't go as far as calling it a scam, it has it's usecases, just not for me)

Re: Serverless Is a Scam

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Post by CafeRacer »

LecroJS wrote: post #23
CafeRacer wrote: post #17

The thing i hated the most about aws lambda is connecting to postgres or using bcrypt... it's possible, but it felt like defeating Malenia.

What did you dislike about connecting to Postgres from AWS lambda?

You have to build the driver. And sometimes libc version on lambda runtime is slightly different from libc that is linked to the driver.

Overall there was a lot of trial and error and no clear way to test everything locally in the container.

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