Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

info.arxiv.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 178 posts

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#21

Post by Spivak »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #16
dvrp wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You deal with emergencies with international on call rotation?

"Follow the sun" rotations are a common way to handle 24h oncall rotations. Three regular shifts (8 hours of work plus some lunch break that gives you time for a short overlap at the beginning/end of the shift) during that region's local daytime hours, in three different regions with time zones roughly 8 hours apart. That way nobody has to work nights and you still get 24/7 coverage.

You have to get management to get over themselves and the stupid office policy to make it happen though. Synchronous collaboration isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#24

Post by sightbroke »

dig1 wrote: post #18

> We are already underway on the arXiv CE ("Cloud Edition") project... replace the portion of our backends still written in perl and PHP...re-architect our article processing to be fully asynchronous,.. we can deploy via Kubernetes or services like Google Cloud Run...improve our monitoring and logging facilities Why do I smell someone from G was there and sold them fancy cloud story (or they wanted VMs and reseller s…

> This is a project to re-home all arXiv services from VMs at Cornell to a cloud provider (Google Cloud).

They are already using VMs but one of the things it'll do is:

> containerize all, or nearly all arXiv services so we can deploy via Kubernetes or services like Google Cloud Run

And further state:

> The modernization will enable: - arXiv to expand the subject areas that we cover - improve the metadata we collect and make available for articles, adding fields that the research community has requested such as funder identification - deal with the problem of ambiguous author identities - improve accessibility to support users with impairments, particularly visual impairments - improve usability for the entire arXiv community

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#26

Post by falcor84 »

londons_explore wrote: post #20
dig1 wrote: post #18

> We are already underway on the arXiv CE ("Cloud Edition") project... replace the portion of our backends still written in perl and PHP...re-architect our article processing to be fully asynchronous,.. we can deploy via Kubernetes or services like Google Cloud Run...improve our monitoring and logging facilities Why do I smell someone from G was there and sold them fancy cloud story (or they wanted VMs and reseller s…

This.... I bet arXiv was run on server hardware costing under $10k before... And now it'll end up costing $10k per month (with free credit from Google which will eventually go away and then arXiv will shut down or be forced to go commercial)

I assume they would still have the serving code they use now and if they do choose to go back to maintaining it on their own hardware they'll always have that option. It seems they just don't want that anymore.

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#29

Post by johann8384 »

dig1 wrote: post #18

> We are already underway on the arXiv CE ("Cloud Edition") project... replace the portion of our backends still written in perl and PHP...re-architect our article processing to be fully asynchronous,.. we can deploy via Kubernetes or services like Google Cloud Run...improve our monitoring and logging facilities Why do I smell someone from G was there and sold them fancy cloud story (or they wanted VMs and reseller s…

Moving to K8s, adding in additional instrumentation, just sounds like some new folks took over or joined the project and are doing some renovations. Seems like pretty standard stuff, doesn't really seem as sinister as you make it to be.

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#30

Post by KeplerBoy »

rahen wrote: post #13
jeffbee wrote: post #3

Job opening for the rare perl+latex hackers.

Perl is becoming rare, but is LaTeX also falling out of use for technical papers? Most of the scientific and CS papers I’ve seen lately still seem to use it, even those coming from Microsoft. That said, it's often generated via Org-mode or WYSIWYG tools these days.

LaTeX is alive and well. I absolutely don't have the feeling that's going to change anytime soon.

All the conferences I'm looking at have word and latex templates. Word clearly isn't going to replace LaTeX for many reasons.

Truth to be told: As long as you're given a template and have to stick to that template, LaTeX is all you could ever want. With overleaf there's barely a tooling learning curve either.

Post reply on HN