OpenAI o3 and o4-mini • Hacker News Board

Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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Post by burke » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 5:16 PM UTC

It's pretty frustrating to see a press release with "Try on ChatGPT" and then not see the models available even though I'm paying them $200/mo.

Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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Post by drvladb » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 5:16 PM UTC

typs wrote: post #8

I’m not sure I fully understand the rationale of having newer mini versions (eg o3-mini, o4-mini) when previous thinking models (eg o1) and smart non-thinking models (eg gpt-4.1) exist. Does anyone here use these for anything?

o1 is a much larger, more expensive to operate on OpenAI's end. Having a smaller "newer" (roughly equating newer to more capable) model means that you can match the performance of larger older models while reducing inference and API costs.

Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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Post by andrethegiant » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 5:17 PM UTC

Buried in the article, a new CLI for coding:

> Codex CLI is fully open-source at https://github.com/openai/codex today.

Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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Post by _bin_ » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 5:17 PM UTC

burke wrote: post #21

It's pretty frustrating to see a press release with "Try on ChatGPT" and then not see the models available even though I'm paying them $200/mo.

I see o4-mini on the $20 tier but no o3.

Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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Post by testfrequency » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 5:17 PM UTC

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #7

testfrequency wrote: post #3

As a consumer, it is so exhausting keeping up with what model I should or can be using for the task I want to accomplish.

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I’m assuming when you say “read once”, that implies reading once every single release?

It’s confusing. If I’m confused, it’s confusing. This is UX 101.

Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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Post by darioush » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 5:18 PM UTC

testfrequency wrote: post #3

As a consumer, it is so exhausting keeping up with what model I should or can be using for the task I want to accomplish.

It's becoming a bit like iphone 3, 4... 13, 25...

Ok they are all phones that run apps and have a camera. I'm not an "AI power user", but I do talk to ChatGPT + Grok for daily tasks and use copilot.

The big step function happened when they could search the web but not much else has changed in my limited experience.

Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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Post by mrits » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 5:18 PM UTC

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #7

testfrequency wrote: post #3

As a consumer, it is so exhausting keeping up with what model I should or can be using for the task I want to accomplish.

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Some people don't blindly trust the marketing department of the publisher

Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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Post by n2d4 » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 5:18 PM UTC

testfrequency wrote: post #3

As a consumer, it is so exhausting keeping up with what model I should or can be using for the task I want to accomplish.

This one seems to make it easier — if the promises here hold true, the multi-modal support probably makes o4-mini-high OpenAI's best model for most tasks unless you have time and money, in which case it's o3-pro.

Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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Post by behnamoh » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 5:19 PM UTC

OpenAI be like:

    o1, o1-mini,
    o1-pro, o3,
    o4-mini, gpt-4,
    gpt-4o, gpt-4-turbo,
    gpt-4.5, gpt-4.1,
    gpt-4o-mini, gpt-4.1-mini,
    gpt-4.1-nano, gpt-3.5-turbo

Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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Post by xqcgrek2 » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 5:19 PM UTC

Underwhelming. Cancelled my subscription in favor of Gemini Pro 2.5