Very impressive release compared to what was possible even a single year ago. It feels like we are in a great state right now with respect to ML where all the big companies are competing and pushing each other to make the tech better. This is rare nowadays in America (or in general).
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#22I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.
We've got a pretty good datapoint along that trajectory with Flow. Almost entirely one person and has grossed $36 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(2024_film)
One person? What do you mean? It literally says in the wiki more than one.
This isn't solo dev game project.
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#23I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.
Everyone keeps ignoring supply and demand when talking about the impacts of AI. Let's just assume it really gets so good you can do this and it doesn't suck. Yes the costs will get so low that there will be almost no barrier to making content but if there is no barrier to making content, the ROI will be massive, and so everyone will be doing it, you can more or less have the exact movie you want in your head on deman…
And one of those 10,000 will have a multimillion marketing budget and people are talking about it online and remixing it into memes and it will make a lot more money than the second-most popular movie, even though there's no discernable quality difference.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everyone keeps ignoring supply and demand when talking about the impacts of AI. Let's just assume it really gets so good you can do this and it doesn't suck. Yes the costs will get so low that there will be almost no barrier to making content but if there is no barrier to making content, the ROI will be massive, and so everyone will be doing it, you can more or less have the exact movie you want in your head on deman…
And one of those 10,000 will have a multimillion marketing budget and people are talking about it online and remixing it into memes and it will make a lot more money than the second-most popular movie, even though there's no discernable quality difference.
It will basically be like the rise of indie games. Every now and again you get something like Among Us which is low quality but good enough to be enjoyable and with the right combination of luck and timing it becomes insanely popular.
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#25I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.
Everyone keeps ignoring supply and demand when talking about the impacts of AI. Let's just assume it really gets so good you can do this and it doesn't suck. Yes the costs will get so low that there will be almost no barrier to making content but if there is no barrier to making content, the ROI will be massive, and so everyone will be doing it, you can more or less have the exact movie you want in your head on deman…
Most of us have no idea what movies we want. The most delightful films are a total surprise (other than the drones who watch every Marvel film of course).
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#26I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.
Everyone keeps ignoring supply and demand when talking about the impacts of AI. Let's just assume it really gets so good you can do this and it doesn't suck. Yes the costs will get so low that there will be almost no barrier to making content but if there is no barrier to making content, the ROI will be massive, and so everyone will be doing it, you can more or less have the exact movie you want in your head on deman…
To quote Nikita Bier, never underestimate how many people just want to watch Netflix and die.
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#27I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.
We've got a pretty good datapoint along that trajectory with Flow. Almost entirely one person and has grossed $36 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(2024_film)
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#28Google is the new Microsoft in the sense that they can Embrace, extend, and extinguish their competition. No matter what xAI or OpenAI or "anything"AI tries to build Google will eventually copy and destroy them at scale. AI (or A1 as our Secretary of Education calls it) is interesting because it is more difficult to protect the IP other than as trade secrets.
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#29I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.
I came to the same sort of conclusion when watching Kitsune, which I think was one person and VEO https://vimeo.com/1047370252 Granted, 5 minutes isn't 1h30 but it's not a million miles away either.
It's fantastic.
I just watched Kitsune, thanks for sharing.
It reminds me why Flow was so good.
Flow was great because I could see the shader artifacts. It was the opposite of a Disney model, it was not polished and perfect.
That's why I loved it. Disney would never do a movie with a plot like Flow. They would write and rewrite it and it would be a perfect example of humanity, but totally devoid of the humanity behind it.
It is ironic that this new coming wave of AI generated (or AI assisted) films feel like they have more human craftmanship than Disney films, when honestly it is the opposite. Disney has incredible and brilliant animators, but that is all crushed behind the merchandising and gross behemoth of the Disney corporation.
I used to love seeing independent films. Those art house theaters really only exist in places like Portland, OR these days. But, I'm excited about the next wave of film because it'll permit small storytelling, and that's going to be great.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the obstacles there are distribution and IP rights. I think we will see content like that find widespread appeal and success but actually turning it into $100m in revenue requires having the copyright (at present, not possible for AI-generated content) and being able to convince a distributor to invest in it. Those both seem like really tough things to solve.
Purely AI-generated content -- with no human authorship -- is not eligible for US copyright protection. However if a human contributes meaningfully to the final output (editing, selection, arrangement, etc.) it becomes eligible. See Thaler v. Perlmutter (2023).
>is not eligible for US copyright protection
Once industry adopts AI generation, which it will, a new law will be quickly signed.
In a way, not allowing copyright of AI material really only serves a tiny group of people. "We want to empower everyone to bring their ideas to market, not just those with the ability to draw them" is not a particularly evil or amoral sentiment.