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Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding changes

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Re: Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding changes

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It’ll be nice if an institution finally decides to oppose some of the recent government overreach. It’s really shocking to see an institution in our country take action that is not in its immediate financial best interest (assuming this letter translates to an action)

It's not just about finances. Trump just announced (possibly accidentally) that he's going to start deporting American citizens to El Salvador gulags: https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-says-the-us-could-de...

and they've been painting political enemies as criminals. It's pretty much the same situation as Russia/Putin but at an earlier stage of its development, and people want to avoid being the tallest grass that gets mowed.

It's good that some institutions are standing up but I don't expect it to go well for them.

Re: Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding changes

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Harvard has a 50 billion endowment, what do they need federal funds for. If they value their intellectual independence so much, then cut the cord.

The federal funds are for doing research that the government wants to fund, not keeping the university’s lights on. This is about terminating a productive partnership, not ending a subsidy handout to schools.

Yup, people really need to learn their history. The modern federally-funded research university system came about as a direct result of the US getting caught with their pants down after Sputnik. The government decided it's in its best strategic interests to maintain long-term investments in basic and applied research. Those aren't things you can just spin up on short notice, though it's easy to kill it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_crisis#Response

Re: Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding changes

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Harvard has a 50 billion endowment, what do they need federal funds for. If they value their intellectual independence so much, then cut the cord.

Much of that federal funding is for research, the same as any other R1 university. We all benefit from research findings. Endowments are used for other purposes. There are a few colleges that take no federal funding in order to maintain total independence (mostly for religious reasons). But their research output is virtually zero.

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Re: Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding changes

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If you've read history, this rhymes with certain acts that have happened before under certain regimes. Under a non-authoritarian Government, this type of showboating can be dismissed, but when habeas corpus and the right to due process is suspended — such actions take on a very different cast indeed.

It's good that Harvard is fighting this. The more people accede, the more they will accelerate down a path where there is no coming back from.

Re: Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding changes

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the irony of the evil being perpetrated around the world in the name of "antisemitism" is mind boggling

In the name of "fighting antisemitism"?

It's true, though. It's a convenient tool. "What do you mean you don't want to cede control to us? Don't you want to fight antisemitism?!"

Re: Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding changes

#30

It’ll be nice if an institution finally decides to oppose some of the recent government overreach. It’s really shocking to see an institution in our country take action that is not in its immediate financial best interest (assuming this letter translates to an action)

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