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The self-castrated hatmaker who killed John Wilkes Booth (2015)

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Post by FranchuFranchu »

collingreen wrote: post #18
benhoyt wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy certainly had ba... uh, courage. Jesus is known for saying striking things, like "If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire." (Matthew 18:8) He was the master of attention-grabbing metaphor. Of course here he means "deal seriously with your sin", not "ge…

Another thing to consider when taking the Bible angle: > He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord. Deuteronomy 23 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%202...

Hi! This is part of Jewish religious purity law and not usually taken as part of the rules that govern most Christian denominations. For example, women who are menstruating are usually not banned from participating in Christian services, and any other people would be unsuited to partake in Temple service according to Jewish religious law are usually allowed to participate in worship in Christianity.

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Post by AStonesThrow »

collingreen wrote: post #18
benhoyt wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy certainly had ba... uh, courage. Jesus is known for saying striking things, like "If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire." (Matthew 18:8) He was the master of attention-grabbing metaphor. Of course here he means "deal seriously with your sin", not "ge…

Another thing to consider when taking the Bible angle: > He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord. Deuteronomy 23 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%202...

Thus heightening Jesus’ mysterious irony, and probing the dichotomy between acceptance before humans and the abundant grace of spiritual redemption

The physical human body is said to parallel and prefigure the glorified heavenly body. Archbishop Fulton Sheen was quoted as saying that the only “man-made things” in Heaven are the Five Wounds of Christ.

>> Korean Statue Depicts A Jesus So Jacked It Looks Like His Last Supper Was Pure Protein (2018)

https://brobible.com/life/article/korean-jesus-statue-jacked...

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Post by [deleted] »

collingreen wrote: post #18
benhoyt wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy certainly had ba... uh, courage. Jesus is known for saying striking things, like "If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire." (Matthew 18:8) He was the master of attention-grabbing metaphor. Of course here he means "deal seriously with your sin", not "ge…

Another thing to consider when taking the Bible angle: > He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord. Deuteronomy 23 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%202...

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Post by wasabi991011 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #13
kgwgk wrote: post #10

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Choosing Castration: A Thematic Analysis of the Perceived Pros and Cons of Genital Injuries and Ablation by Men Who Voluntarily Sought Castration https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10102058/ This is kind of funny: “Furthermore, for some, the frequency of playing with male action figures that lack genitals (e.g., Ken doll, GI Joe) during childhood may have contributed to their castration desire (Wong et al., 202…

> “Furthermore, for some, the frequency of playing with male action figures that lack genitals (e.g., Ken doll, GI Joe) during childhood may have contributed to their castration desire (Wong et al., 2021).” I'm assuming Wong 2021 has nothing to say about this other than the assertion. A basic prerequisite for this would be that ordinary people's genitals are visible through their pants.

If you don't want to assume, here is the section from Wong 2021:

>While we did not find any group difference in the experience of playing with toys without genitals in childhood, the frequency of playing with such toys is associated with erotic attraction to castration for the Interested and Wannabe groups. These findings suggest that childhood play with male toy figurines lacking genitalia might potentially contribute to BIID, which for some individuals may fulminate as extreme castration ideations and ultimately genital ablation. Such an impact from toy play resembles other study findings (Fernandez & Pritchard, 2012; Galioto & Crowther, 2013) that exposure to slender and muscular models may lower body satisfaction and motivate body modification for males, in parallel with the Barbie doll syndrome for girls (Dittmar et al., 2006). Yet it should also be noted that there was a higher proportion (59% vs. 45%) of individuals in the Castrated group, who never played with male figurines, than in the Wannabe group. These results indicate that play with male genital-less toys may be significant for some, but not all, in contributing to extreme castration ideations.

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Post by uncomplexity_ »

cyberpunk wrote: post #2

> His rash tendencies exhibited themselves in strange ways. One day while he was ministering in the summer of 1858, Corbett was ogled by a pair of prostitutes, and the lower half of his body responded invitingly. He went home, took a pair of scissors, snipped an incision under his scrotum, and removed his testicles, then headed out to a prayer meeting. > In the Bible, Matthew 19:12 quotes Christ as saying “there are…

what the fuck man

what the fuck was that haha

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Post by sudoshred »

cyberpunk wrote: post #2

> His rash tendencies exhibited themselves in strange ways. One day while he was ministering in the summer of 1858, Corbett was ogled by a pair of prostitutes, and the lower half of his body responded invitingly. He went home, took a pair of scissors, snipped an incision under his scrotum, and removed his testicles, then headed out to a prayer meeting. > In the Bible, Matthew 19:12 quotes Christ as saying “there are…

The internet is not the problem, it’s the users, per usual.

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Post by jgyter »

AStonesThrow wrote: post #19

There is an album and videocassette, possibly had “official bootleg” status, by the Swans titled “Public Castration Is A Good Idea”, and the typesetting as album cover “art” is not discreet about that. Swans are a New York “No Wave” band known for their loud Industrial Noise concerts with reports of bleeding eardrums https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Castration_Is_a_Good_Id... Bonus Technical Fact : in 1986, audio…

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Post by thaumasiotes »

wasabi991011 wrote: post #24
thaumasiotes wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “Furthermore, for some, the frequency of playing with male action figures that lack genitals (e.g., Ken doll, GI Joe) during childhood may have contributed to their castration desire (Wong et al., 2021).” I'm assuming Wong 2021 has nothing to say about this other than the assertion. A basic prerequisite for this would be that ordinary people's genitals are visible through their pants.

If you don't want to assume, here is the section from Wong 2021: >While we did not find any group difference in the experience of playing with toys without genitals in childhood, the frequency of playing with such toys is associated with erotic attraction to castration for the Interested and Wannabe groups. These findings suggest that childhood play with male toy figurines lacking genitalia might potentially contribu…

Ah, the old "there's no result overall, but if you examine the sub-subgroups, you can see one! No, ten!"

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Post by leopoldj »

cyberpunk wrote: post #2

> His rash tendencies exhibited themselves in strange ways. One day while he was ministering in the summer of 1858, Corbett was ogled by a pair of prostitutes, and the lower half of his body responded invitingly. He went home, took a pair of scissors, snipped an incision under his scrotum, and removed his testicles, then headed out to a prayer meeting. > In the Bible, Matthew 19:12 quotes Christ as saying “there are…

> there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs

This appears to be a bad translation. Modern translation is "and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven". This is referring to celibacy. The issue is explained in more detail by Paul in 1 Corinthians 7 verse 8-9.

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Post by quuxplusone »

gwern wrote: post #14
NickNaraghi wrote: post #11

I’ve gotten to study a lot about hat making recently, and a little known fact about is that the use of mercuric nitrate in the felting process poisoned many workers in the hat factories, creating a condition called erethism, also called "mad hatter disease." The exposure resulted in slurred speech, tremors, stumbling, and, in extreme cases, hallucinations. It’s pretty likely that Corbett was exposed to the same!

That's not 'little known'. That's the only thing almost anyone knows about hat-making.

Agreed. But that only makes me wonder: Out of the "a lot" that GP recently learned about hat-making, what are the next one or two most interesting factoids after that one?
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