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Re: Our New AI Website Builder

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

paul7986 wrote: post #18
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From an audience perspective, if you use an AI generated site, I'm just assuming your product is shit. And not even because I'm opposed to the way AI is being used in many places (though I am) but for the same reason I don't buy products that advertise with shitty commercials that look like they were filmed in 2006 on a budget of $500. If you don't have a marketing budget for proper advertising, I'm assuming your pro…

If you have GPT pro or know someone try it out .. create a logo with it then ask it to create a website around your chosen logo and then ask it to code the front-end. Im sure it can do the back-end code too. The logos and the web design it creates around the chosen logo look amazing .. extremely pro level. I'm not sure how you or anyone would be able to decipher if a website and or brand used chatGPT (pro). I'm betti…

I will Pepsi challenge this at your convenience. Give me some links if you like.

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Post by johnebgd »

cabalos wrote: post #14
nadermx wrote: post #2

Speaking of WordPress, hows the entire WordPress debacle going with Matt Mullenweg?

Development has dropped off a cliff over the last couple of months. The release cycle has moved from quarterly to yearly. He's basically taking his ball and going home. My guess is we'll see more internal initiatives like this AI builder instead of focusing on the core product. This would be an okay strategy if his core product wasn't in such a state of disrepair. I've seen multiple issues on Github projects from Aut…

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Re: Our New AI Website Builder

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Post by rchaud »

So they finally gave up on making "Full Site Editing" a thing, I take it. I maintain that trying to transition the product away from PHP into a React-ridden mess for the "Block Editor" in 2017 started us down this path of ruin.

Clearly they felt threatened by site builder plugins like Elementor Pro, Beaver Builder, Bricks and others that massively improved the WYSIWYG experience to the point where WP was relegated to the role of invisible scaffolding, a dumb pipe. Considering how badly they botched the redesign into the block editor era, and the madness about WpEngine, they are struggling to shake investor worries.

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Post by fragmede »

AlienRobot wrote: post #22

Wordpress: create your own website in minutes! Wordpress new AI: create your own website in minutes!

The bus, when you live on the route: Get to work in 30 minutes!

A car: Get to work in 30 minutes! (you still have to live and work in the right locations for that to be true, but you now also have deal with traffic)

Re: Our New AI Website Builder

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Post by rchaud »

LordDragonfang wrote: post #3

Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't help but feel this is a solution in search of a problem. I feel like "building a simple website" has been a solved issue with templates for decades now. The only thing you need to add is the text, and for a useful website, you're already going to have to be typing 90% of that into the prompt anyway - most of what an LLM is going to add will be more of a value-subtract than a value-add. Su…

another term for it is "investor driven development".

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Post by Mystery-Machine »

throwawaymatt wrote: post #15
nadermx wrote: post #2

Speaking of WordPress, hows the entire WordPress debacle going with Matt Mullenweg?

They're still battling out in court, with a timeline that extends into 2027. Meanwhile: (very quick summary) Matt's pulled his developers off the project, and the release schedule has slowed. Some commercial vendors have increased their support, while others have pulled back. Meanwhile the ecosystem of devs and agencies basically shrugged it off. If we need to get rid of Matt we will (with big vendor support), no big…

I believe it is actually Pretty Big Deal™.

No big deal on splitting the community in half? Matt will not go and you will have half the people supporting him, half forking the project. Actually less than half on each side, when you count in the people that will completely leave the ecosystem...

Re: Our New AI Website Builder

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Post by AlienRobot »

nadermx wrote: post #2

Speaking of WordPress, hows the entire WordPress debacle going with Matt Mullenweg?

For 99.99% of the people, it doesn't matter. Even if Wordpress stopped getting updates today, the code already works and it's open source, thanks in part to Matt for maintaining it for 20 years.

It was just the weekly Internet drama of the programming niche probably pumped by Youtubers and influencers in need for content to drive views and then by memes. Barely anything of substance was actually written about it.

After all, if Matt were such a negative factor in the project, it would be trivial to just take all the code and fork it and then for all the developers to just move to the new project. The fact that this didn't happen shows that there is non-trivial infrastructure being provided that is separate from the open source project. How do such smart people as programmers fail to understand this when they repeatedly conflate the open source project with the whole trademark/plugin hosting thing is beyond me. Does nobody question the whole thing before pointing fingers and picking their pitchforks?

I've seen a Youtuber who interviewed to Matt in one video and the Youtuber himself raised the point of hosting costs, and then in a next video they conflate the two concepts as if they had completely forgotten about everything they said and heard. It's surreal.

Re: Our New AI Website Builder

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Post by rchaud »

browningstreet wrote: post #5
LordDragonfang wrote: post #3

Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't help but feel this is a solution in search of a problem. I feel like "building a simple website" has been a solved issue with templates for decades now. The only thing you need to add is the text, and for a useful website, you're already going to have to be typing 90% of that into the prompt anyway - most of what an LLM is going to add will be more of a value-subtract than a value-add. Su…

Going from a basic template to all the little changes you need to make to build the basic shell you need for a new site is still a lot of work. Think of all the best practices cruft required for the pages typically linked to from the footer. A sporting good site is different than a directory blog is different than a single serving social media aggregation site. I think it's plausible for AI to help with the tedious s…

An AI website will look about as unique as a Facebook profile in 2004. Even the most non-technical people can tell a designer "make it look like this other website that I like". An AI won't be able to understand that, because it can't surf the web, locate the site and analyze what makes it good in the eyes of the customer.
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