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Re: Attorney representing a student protester detained by federal immigration agents

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Post by ipaddr »

DrillShopper wrote: post #12
alabastervlog wrote: post #9

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It's surreal to see the usual rewrite-in-Rust articles and such still dominating the main page during an ongoing and fairly open effort to end liberal democracy in the US and upend the entire world trade & security order. I get that it's supposedly a tech forum (and that actually it's an advertising & marketing platform) but still, gives a fella the creeps. Especially when major tech figures (Thiel, Musk, everyone in…

The vast majority of people on this site approve of what the president is doing or are apathetic to it since they think it will never affect them. One only need look at how fast the flagging brigade shows up when any story critical of the government or Elon Musk is posted.

Political stories get flagged. It's not for a lack of caring or supporting either side. It's been an ongoing rule since the start.

Musk has had an unusual popularity in tech circles but that was before his political journey.

Re: Attorney representing a student protester detained by federal immigration agents

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Post by surgical_fire »

ty6853 wrote: post #18
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #14

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I think you're blaming exactly the wrong person here.

I know who to blame. I think I know exactly what protocol they were shaking down on this guy because my passport was flagged on a similar list after fighting in a Syrian militia for a US ally that US government employees often support. Which isn't illegal, but for whatever reason seems to have pissed off CBP. The point is you're dealing with a hostile agency that hates Americans. You can't control what unaccountable…

It's all fun and games until they ship you to a concentration camp in some Central American country.

Re: Attorney representing a student protester detained by federal immigration agents

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Post by dylan604 »

jayd16 wrote: post #15
johnnyanmac wrote: post #10

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Very few things that aren't outright blacklisted get deleted. It is likely to be flagged, though.

What's the difference?

you can still participate in discussions of a flagged topic. you'll never see a deleted one though

Re: Attorney representing a student protester detained by federal immigration agents

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Post by paleotrope »

treetalker wrote: post #19
josefresco wrote: post #7

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You mean you don't want to hear all about my Artisanal Python startup while democracy dies?

Democracy Dies During Debugging

Democracy is always Dying, But did it ever really Live?

Re: Attorney representing a student protester detained by federal immigration agents

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Post by surgical_fire »

lostdog wrote: post #16
bbor wrote: post #4

[flagged]

It would suck for HN to devolve into politics news. Having a place to discuss and learn about tech topics is important. That's not to say I don't care about the ongoing crisis (I do!). But I have plenty of other places to read about and discuss it. I don't really want it on HN more than once a week, because it will just drown out everything else.

The thing is that sort of thing is relevant, even here on HN.

Say you work abroad for a US tech company. Are you at risk if you need to travel to the US for work? What kind of precautions do you need to take?

Re: Attorney representing a student protester detained by federal immigration agents

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Post by mingus88 »

ty6853 wrote: post #3

Guy folded like a tent in 90 minutes and gave up his contacts. Attorneys talk a big game about remaining silent, but in the end can't even stand up to a 90 minute intimidation session. I've been through the wringer including shackled, strip searched, locked up with crazy Mexicans, cbp tell me lies until their face turns blue about revoking passports or not being let through into your own country. Don't be like this g…

We all know from the Snowden files that they don’t actually need to see his contacts.

They knew everything about him already. This was just intimidation.

> they will usually give up after locking you up for a day or so.

If you think that anything about what is happening in the U.S. is business as usual well…

Re: Attorney representing a student protester detained by federal immigration agents

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Post by fragmede »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #14
ty6853 wrote: post #3

Guy folded like a tent in 90 minutes and gave up his contacts. Attorneys talk a big game about remaining silent, but in the end can't even stand up to a 90 minute intimidation session. I've been through the wringer including shackled, strip searched, locked up with crazy Mexicans, cbp tell me lies until their face turns blue about revoking passports or not being let through into your own country. Don't be like this g…

I think you're blaming exactly the wrong person here.

The mistake is taking one incident and attributing it to an entire class of people. Just because one man has been a creep in the past doesn't mean that all men are creeps/one woman has acted crazy in the past doesn't mean that all women are crazy.

Attorney client privilege means something, and a different attorney in the same situation would have acted differently.

Re: Attorney representing a student protester detained by federal immigration agents

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Post by sixothree »

surgical_fire wrote: post #22
ty6853 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know who to blame. I think I know exactly what protocol they were shaking down on this guy because my passport was flagged on a similar list after fighting in a Syrian militia for a US ally that US government employees often support. Which isn't illegal, but for whatever reason seems to have pissed off CBP. The point is you're dealing with a hostile agency that hates Americans. You can't control what unaccountable…

It's all fun and games until they ship you to a concentration camp in some Central American country.

I look around at half of the people around me and feel like they would look the other way if I were disappeared.

Re: Attorney representing a student protester detained by federal immigration agents

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Post by surgical_fire »

sixothree wrote: post #28
surgical_fire wrote: post #22

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It's all fun and games until they ship you to a concentration camp in some Central American country.

I look around at half of the people around me and feel like they would look the other way if I were disappeared.

The sad part is that most of us would be like that. I know I am.

I don't say this with pride, mind you. But it annoys me to no end when people LARP as if they would be like the ones who helped Jews hide in places occupied by Germany when things were getting ugly in late 1930s. Those people are rare.

You see, it takes a lot of fortitude to stand up to tiranny. You are effectively putting the well being of you and yours on the line. Especially now that I have a child, I am very sure I would look the other way in that scenario, hoping I was not the next.

Re: Attorney representing a student protester detained by federal immigration agents

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Post by [deleted] »

surgical_fire wrote: post #29
sixothree wrote: post #28

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I look around at half of the people around me and feel like they would look the other way if I were disappeared.

The sad part is that most of us would be like that. I know I am. I don't say this with pride, mind you. But it annoys me to no end when people LARP as if they would be like the ones who helped Jews hide in places occupied by Germany when things were getting ugly in late 1930s. Those people are rare . You see, it takes a lot of fortitude to stand up to tiranny. You are effectively putting the well being of you and you…

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