Q: How open? Can it be used commercially? Is the training protocol going to be open? Or just the weights released like Llama models?
At this point I think it is safe to assume open means open weights only.
OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
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Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're interested in the field, why wouldn't you answer the questionnaire? It costs you basically nothing while the upside is getting something that is potentially at least a tiny bit more useful to you than if you hadn't said anything?
It takes time and will likely be ignored.
Why would it be ignored? They're the ones asking.
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#23Easy. A reasoning model with better performance than QWQ but at 21B (like Reka Flash 3) and good tooling call support. A model as “intelligent “ as Qwen2.5 but personality and creativity of Gemini (or Gemma at a minimum)
And also you should get prizes for using it
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#24> Let's start with your details
Well obviously they will have thousands of applications from which they need to make a selection removing trolls, luddites, etc. How would you do it without asking for some applicants' details?
>they need to make a selection removing trolls, luddites, etc
Do the luddites opinions not count?
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#25Q: How open? Can it be used commercially? Is the training protocol going to be open? Or just the weights released like Llama models?
> Can it be used commercially?
OpenAI has been good about sticking to the commercially-friendly MIT License for their OSS. (e.g. Whisper/tiktoken)
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#26OpenAI should release its frontier model as an open-weight model. There are already open-weight models that match OpenAI's best models (at the time of their release), so the idea that OpenAI would lose something by making its frontier models open-weight doesn't hold up. With an open-weight model, they would instantly kill any proprietary competitor, similar to what Google did to all its competitors with Android. IMO,…
> There are already open-weight models that match OpenAI's best models (at the time of their release)
Did I miss something? Do we now have o1-pro level performance in an open source model?
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#27OpenAI should release its frontier model as an open-weight model. There are already open-weight models that match OpenAI's best models (at the time of their release), so the idea that OpenAI would lose something by making its frontier models open-weight doesn't hold up. With an open-weight model, they would instantly kill any proprietary competitor, similar to what Google did to all its competitors with Android. IMO,…
There are already open-weight models that match OpenAI's best models (at the time of their release), so the idea that OpenAI would lose something by making its frontier models open-weight doesn't hold up
If true, that cuts both ways though right?
It also means we lose nothing if OpenAI releases a closed weight model.
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#28Q: How open? Can it be used commercially? Is the training protocol going to be open? Or just the weights released like Llama models?
They specify "open-weights" later down the form
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well obviously they will have thousands of applications from which they need to make a selection removing trolls, luddites, etc. How would you do it without asking for some applicants' details?
>they need to make a selection removing trolls, luddites, etc Do the luddites opinions not count?
To the tech sector's asking for input to help shape their vision? I would guess they don't.
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well obviously they will have thousands of applications from which they need to make a selection removing trolls, luddites, etc. How would you do it without asking for some applicants' details?
>they need to make a selection removing trolls, luddites, etc Do the luddites opinions not count?
Well traditionally you're supposed to make them count if you're on the luddite side.