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The Gen X Career Meltdown

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Wild. I've heard of the end of e.g. journalism for years, since Craigslist... but as a software developer I thought I'd be immune to these kinds of shifts. Never thought the (career) reaper would come for me, haha. I have some friends in Hollywood... they say there's nothing left, and not even a side-gig in Albuquerque left to pay the bills. Been looking for a job, but in this downturn there's nothing available. Afte…

This absolutely has not been my experience. I'm on the cusp of Gen X, but I had to turn away requests to interview after I added #OpenToWork on LinkedIn. I ended up with four full loops in a single week, and a hard choice between three offers. I definitely shook my network to get internal referrals, but once recruiting knows you are a real person, most companies move quick. Submitting resumes without a referral is us…

Great for you. I asked my network and got one phone-screen interview in the last six months, with the interviewer not particularly interested.

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This is just talking about how technology has consolidated industries that were before not consolidated: journalism, photography, etc. This same issue affects Gen Y, Z, A. I guess GenX had a career in those things because they existed when GenX was at working age. Gen Y, Z, A never had the opportunity to be a journalist, photographer in the same way GenX did in their youth or the Boomers or Tweeters had.

FWIW, I'm GenX and we all saw this coming in the 90s. I'm lucky enough to happen to have interest in tech, so I'm still alive, career wise. It was ugly for non-tech people even in the mid 90s. Hopefully on-shoring will be a thing again soon. Globalization + Tech really kicked the shit out of the US workforce.

Good luck everyone.

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So, “previously a shoot would cost 5-figure […] now a kid can do it for $500”.

“Soon we will no longer need musicians, due to rise of AI”.

“If a director can do it with AI writing I want X, Y, Z”

A strange pattern. In all three cases, are we getting a 1:1 quality or we are so lost in age of cheap quality that those does not matter?

I for one would not buy anything or pay a subscription fee, where the photo or the music was AI generated. If the creative content I want does not have a humane touch, it is not worth to me.

Also, while we are bemoaning the loss of fields and jobs, behind the veil lurks the age of wrong incentives. In previous era, when my parents were pursuing a career, a record breaking profit meant more expansion, more investment, more debt and new pursuit of possibilities. Now we live in a moral bankrupt feudal age, where despite record profits, layoffs and merger+shutdown are performed like a crazy to maximize stock price and top level bonuses. It all is just regression of society’s feudal lords too deep in greed to care about the future.

No one thinks anymore, here is my product, it is so cool and ground breaking, we must layoff more employees to also chase that another fad which will likely fail in a year or two but I get good bonuses and move onto another place before the consequences come due but then more layoffs can be done to pay for my mistakes. But eventually if enough people are being laid off, who will buy my products? How will my target audience pay for this thing if they don’t have a job? The economy does not work if the gains are not cycled again back to society and common folks.

Also welcome to the age of media control and mass manufacturing consent(thanks to Noam Chomsky for the concept), when enough media words and campaign can be bought to tell the feudal overlords what to do and what is the new trend in societal destruction in order to maximize their billion bonus packages in short term and leave the consequences to the future.

/rant off

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Wild. I've heard of the end of e.g. journalism for years, since Craigslist... but as a software developer I thought I'd be immune to these kinds of shifts. Never thought the (career) reaper would come for me, haha. I have some friends in Hollywood... they say there's nothing left, and not even a side-gig in Albuquerque left to pay the bills. Been looking for a job, but in this downturn there's nothing available. Afte…

I'm mid-30s and think about this all the time. I went from psych -> economics and after being exposed to SAS/Stata decided to go into data analysis and then engineering. SWE looked like the picture of success at the time. I think about tail risk a lot and have been saving diligently for security and hopes of reclaiming my time from work.

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Gen X here. This author found the marginally productive people who can't read the room and adjust. Us punk kids who photocopied their 'zines are doing just fine because we paid attention and moved on and then moved on again. And the kids say: "skill issue, get gud"

This. I am a gen X and still employed. Repurposed my mainframe knowledge into general tech then marketing.

Still kicking.

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This article focuses a good bit of time on folks who work in marketing and journalism and specifically marketing agencies or print houses. Two things to really note there:

1. In Marketing you are usually either climbing the ladder and moving to management or you are out. No one can afford the experienced but expensive graphic designer, photographer, or writer. The skill-sets are too commoditized. And everyone is always looking for new fresh voices / design ideas. Agencies hire cheaper and younger talent that will put in hellish hours because they don’t know any better and don’t have family commitments. There is basically no one in marketing over 55 unless you are the owner or CMO. High burnout and not a kind career to families.

2. Marketing Agencies are a dime a dozen now and the business model is broken. You used to need a marketing agency to coordinate big media buys or to have access to the right people or equipment and the cost barrier and knowledge barrier to do it yourself was huge. So what you did was hire a really good marketing strategist and then they hired agencies to pitch campaign ideas and handle the production work, but the job moves too fast now to do that. The tools are ever cheaper and ever easier to use. Most companies have brought the bulk of the marketing work they do in house and maybe only work with an agency for a brand refresh or for a big nationally aired ad campaign.

Gen X is hitting the age where you are either executive in creative industries or you are out. Some of that is age discrimination, but some of it is just the reality that there is probably someone younger, cheaper, hungrier, and with fresh ideas looking to do the job.

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The rampant destruction of jobs, career paths, and education going on right now from the very top feels drastically worse

The post war boom needed people, was a time of great building. That had created past a peak, and we no longer were able to exploit foreign labor markets and resources with quite such abundance by Gen X's day.

But today? We had a fantastic economy. Life was expensive as hell, but at least there were economic prospects, things to do, careers that felt worth doing.

But now, we are chainsawing apart the economy. Political speech-control is forcing companies and universities to behave certain ways, to eliminaye jobs and career paths. Healthcare, sciences, and international diplomacy are being gutted, dismantled entirely. With foreign students to afraid to risk the arbitrary injustice of ICE and potentially being sent to a prison states super prison, universities will lose one of their reliable revenue streams. These are going to massively impact jobs.

This story is a good one to remember, about a change, but the horros happening now are utterly self inflicted, by people aggressively dismantling the New Deal and the post-wsr American Way of Life, eliminating enormous amounts of jobs & the career paths that started these jobs.

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Born in 79 so I'm either X or millenial - don't really care. I'm nostalgic about the times when tech was sought out and less pervasive. This recent article[1] really made me nostalic about the "goold ole days". The "boring" days. Anyways, I feel less sorry for myself and more empathy for younger generations. Growing up has always been challenging, before school shootings, and online bullying.. Now you can't escape th…

There's a cusp between them, birth years '78 to '82. We're the Xennials, also dubbed the Oregon Trail micro-generation. We're the ones who grew up playing that on the Apple IIs in the school computer labs, and the other hallmarks of that tech era like typing in programs from magazines, and then eventually we formed the BBS scene before the internet. We have the best of both ways regarding technology. We use it and we…

I was born in 1984 and I consider that part of the Oregon Trail generation because I played Oregon Trail in school as a child. I didn't get my first computer until 1998. Before that I rode my bicycle around, watched nickelodeon where half the airtime was commercials, played with pogs, and life sucked! I was about as unhappy a child as you can imagine before I found the Internet and programming. Everything the tech industry does makes the world a significantly better place. So don't listen to these subversive treacherous nytimes clowns.

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Gen X here. This author found the marginally productive people who can't read the room and adjust. Us punk kids who photocopied their 'zines are doing just fine because we paid attention and moved on and then moved on again. And the kids say: "skill issue, get gud"

Same. I still remember almost getting suspended in high school for "hacking" the school computers in the mid 90's. Now I get paid as a security researcher. Also have genX friends who do more tangible stuff like auto mechanic, architect, trucker, dentist and chiropractor. All are doing just fine in their respective niches.

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Gen X here. This author found the marginally productive people who can't read the room and adjust. Us punk kids who photocopied their 'zines are doing just fine because we paid attention and moved on and then moved on again. And the kids say: "skill issue, get gud"

As much as I appreciate the spirit of your comment I don't think you're being entirely fair here. Professional journalists had the ground disappear beneath their feet with no obvious exit strategy. It was even worse for photographers. Sure some managed to tread water for a while by switching to digital workflows but demand for the trade evaporated. I mean, just in our local area something like 200 small businesses we…

We understand that change can be hard. But the article strikes me as a bit self serving and myopic. I seem to remember a distinct lack of compassion from the media when the steel workers and miners were all losing their jobs. The "learn to code" meme started as a flip remark dismissing their plight. Now we have the rust belt.
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