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“Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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The more I work with LLMs and try things like "vibe coding" the less worried I am about AI taking my job any time soon. In the right contexts, I find LLMs can speed up my work a lot. But it's nowhere close to being able to replace what I do.

Wait 10 years, though.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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The reference to Claude Plays Pokemon isn't applicable to the discussion of vibe coding, although the suggestion that AI agents can fix the issues with vibe coding is funny in an ironic way given the disproportionate hype around both.

The issues with Claude Plays Pokemon (an overview here: https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/03/why-anthropics-claude-sti... ) is essentially due to the 200k context window being finite, which is why it has to use an intermediate notepad. In the case of coding assistants like Cursor, the "notepad" is self-documenting with the code itself, sometimes literally with excessive code comments. The functional constraints of code are also more defined both implicitly and optionally explicitly: For Pokemon Red, the 90's game design doesn't often give instructions on where to go for the next objective, which is why the run is effectively over after getting Lt. Surge's badge as the game becomes very nonlinear.

Although, both vibe coding and Claude Plays Pokemon both rely on significant amounts of optimism around the capabilities around LLMs.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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Hot take: Vibe coding is going to be the new Excel of technical debt.

Most tech savvy places will avoid it, most good programmers will never encounter it. A bunch or us will make a career out of fixing the mess it makes after it explodes.

My first real job was doing just that at a broker trader which lost 10m on a trade made by an Excel spreadsheet that used a stale yahoo finance API to get exchange rates.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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At this point in time, we're following the time corporate got on the outsourcing craze step for step. It had all the hype, hands off, cheaper for the same work, faster to market, every other argument you've all certainly heard. Then the reality hit. The whole discussion around LLM coding agents feels indistinguishable.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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post #10

The more I work with LLMs and try things like "vibe coding" the less worried I am about AI taking my job any time soon. In the right contexts, I find LLMs can speed up my work a lot. But it's nowhere close to being able to replace what I do.

Speeding up your work does lead to job loss. If some developers can suddenly be 3x as productive than a company doesn't need as many engineers.

The job loss depends on the average speed up, however. If the AI is only effective in 10% of tasks (the basic stuff), then that 3x improvement goes down to 1.3x.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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post #10

The more I work with LLMs and try things like "vibe coding" the less worried I am about AI taking my job any time soon. In the right contexts, I find LLMs can speed up my work a lot. But it's nowhere close to being able to replace what I do.

Speeding up your work does lead to job loss. If some developers can suddenly be 3x as productive than a company doesn't need as many engineers.

Or it just leads to 3x more stuff being made. This conclusion isn’t nearly as trivial as you’re making it out to be.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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post #7

"ever since I started to share how I built my SaaS using Cursor" random thing are happening, maxed out usage on api keys, people bypassing the subscription, creating random shit on db as you know I'm not technical so this is taking me longer that usual to figure out - (leo, 2025)

Well I checked out the Saas' website and not even the navigation on the landing page worked correctly. Very confidence inspiring!

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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The more I work with LLMs and try things like "vibe coding" the less worried I am about AI taking my job any time soon. In the right contexts, I find LLMs can speed up my work a lot. But it's nowhere close to being able to replace what I do.

Wait 10 years, though.

I heard the same thing about self driving cars. AI advancements aren’t predictable, and it’s easy to understand or overestimate.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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post #4

The more I work with LLMs and try things like "vibe coding" the less worried I am about AI taking my job any time soon. In the right contexts, I find LLMs can speed up my work a lot. But it's nowhere close to being able to replace what I do.

I work at a company relatively well-known in Startup-land and I've replaced a product team which had 9 devs 2 years ago with 2 devs with AI. Devs are just coping so hard around LLMs its hard to watch. OTOH the few engineers who have embraced it are excelling.

There's def a lot of gatekeeping going on by the real coders™. The rest of us are just learning and adapting. Personally, I'm glad that it's now easy to build decent looking UIs and quickly tune SQL.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

#30
> For now, they are worth evaluating and discussing, but are not ready for us to delegate the precise task of creating reliable, secure, and scalable software that powers our society.

The good thing about vive coding is it avoids the software development lifecycle completely from the user perspective in a platform that has an integrated SDLC which means from defining idea to ensure visibility in changes to a runtime where the user can see it. In my mind, modifying without a hassle in a controlled environment is what users look for. Software development assisted by AI will be a thing for engineers but Vive coding is aimed for users outside of engineering. I sadly see only a handful of companies being able to pull this off.

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