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Stelvio: Serverless AWS for Python Devs

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Re: Stelvio: Serverless AWS for Python Devs

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Post by robertlagrant »

michal-stlv wrote: post #20
btreecat wrote: post #15

Neat tool! Not sure I agree with the choices on the AWS side, particularly lambda and dynamo. They seem great when you first start, but I've found the pain comes with maturing code. As professionals, we should always plan for our code to live longer than we thought originally, and supporting new use cases not in the initial design. A cheap always on server and a hosted RDBMS are going to go a lot further for next to…

> Neat tool! thanks! (author here not OP) lambda/api/dynamo is just a start. I have very clear vision where i want to take this and it's not limited to lambda/api/dynamo. but these are easier to start with before you get to VPC, NAT, security groups etc. etc.

Would love something that sets up EKS and ingress without me tearing my hair out and actually wishing I were using Azure (yikes).

Re: Stelvio: Serverless AWS for Python Devs

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Post by JohnScolaro »

I recently made a serverless lambda/dynamo webapp following similar patterns and wrote about the experience here: https://johnscolaro.xyz/blog/serverless-python-websites

I think it's amazing the python community has like 5 half baked solutions to this problem, all of which are either abandoned, poorly monetized, or have a janky UI. I mean we have: Zappa, Chalice, Serverless, and if you attempt to do it yourself, do you use Cloudformation, CDK, or AWS SAM?

Following with interest, I think there is room for better tool in this space.

Re: Stelvio: Serverless AWS for Python Devs

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Post by michal-stlv »

JohnScolaro wrote: post #23

I recently made a serverless lambda/dynamo webapp following similar patterns and wrote about the experience here: https://johnscolaro.xyz/blog/serverless-python-websites I think it's amazing the python community has like 5 half baked solutions to this problem, all of which are either abandoned, poorly monetized, or have a janky UI. I mean we have: Zappa, Chalice, Serverless, and if you attempt to do it yourself, do y…

Nice writing and summary there. As an author of stelvio I felt the same. It's not that there're no tools. But none of them is covering enough AWS surface while being truly focused on Python devs. Some are general infra tools (CDK, Pulumi) focused on infra people, where python is not primary language, some are Python tools like Chalice (likely abandonded) and some are meant for Python devs but use json (Zappa).

I wrote my own thinking here https://blog.stelvio.dev/why-i-am-building-stelvio/

I 'm working hard on Stelvio hoping it can become the best tool to do infra in Python.

Btw. If you'd be willing to share more details about what you want/miss in python cloud tooling could you drop me an email at michal at stelvio.dev ? I'm happy to talk. Applies to other interested people too!

Re: Stelvio: Serverless AWS for Python Devs

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Post by bueny »

globular-toast wrote: post #2

Surprised to not see a comparison Serverless Framework: https://www.serverless.com/ The above recently did a rug pull and being developed in JS means it's not great for Python devs to maintain an open source version, so good to see alternatives in Python.

There's a maintained drop-in replacement called osls: https://github.com/oss-serverless/serverless

Re: Stelvio: Serverless AWS for Python Devs

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Post by bueny »

cebert wrote: post #10
przemub wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eugh. What rug pull do you mean?

Serverless Framework changed their license terms in v4 to a paid model. It’s also not getting a lot of new development or community support anymore. It’s slowly dying and time to move off of it.

Have a look at https://github.com/oss-serverless/serverless
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