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Re: Ember.js 1.0 Prerelease

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Off topic but can a another Windows user can tell me if the text looks horrible to you as it does to me? http://i.imgur.com/rooNb.png I know Chrome has bad font rendering problems on Windows but this is just atrocious. Also FF is a bit better but not by much. This usually happens to me with webfonts only. The fact that I see so little complaints about this online make me think that perhaps it has something to do with…

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Re: Ember.js 1.0 Prerelease

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I've looked at Ember.js in the past, but frankly, I've been intimidated by the lack of good documentation and examples. I'm not an expert like some of you and I really need good tutorials. Backbone excels because of the large community. Knockout has some killer walkthroughs - http://learn.knockoutjs.com/ . Now that Ember.js 1.0 is on the horizon, is this getting better? I want to learn!

I'm in the same boat. A few months ago when I started looking I ended up settling on knockout mainly because of the excellent docs/walkthroughs.

Re: Ember.js 1.0 Prerelease

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I've looked at Ember.js in the past, but frankly, I've been intimidated by the lack of good documentation and examples. I'm not an expert like some of you and I really need good tutorials. Backbone excels because of the large community. Knockout has some killer walkthroughs - http://learn.knockoutjs.com/ . Now that Ember.js 1.0 is on the horizon, is this getting better? I want to learn!

I recently tried angular.js and then chose Ember.js, I ended up struggling with it for about a week, after which it was easy enough. Since then, I've written two relatively simple internal apps with it in less than a week.

Re: Ember.js 1.0 Prerelease

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I've looked at Ember.js in the past, but frankly, I've been intimidated by the lack of good documentation and examples. I'm not an expert like some of you and I really need good tutorials. Backbone excels because of the large community. Knockout has some killer walkthroughs - http://learn.knockoutjs.com/ . Now that Ember.js 1.0 is on the horizon, is this getting better? I want to learn!

I recently tried angular.js and then chose Ember.js, I ended up struggling with it for about a week, after which it was easy enough. Since then, I've written two relatively simple internal apps with it in less than a week.

Hmm, I recently decided to get into the webapp/js stuff and decided to start with Ember, but the lack of documentation was too much for me. Now I'm learning angular and I love it.

Could you elucidate more on your decision? Specifically, was anything harder in angular/easier in ember?

Re: Ember.js 1.0 Prerelease

#25

I've looked at Ember.js in the past, but frankly, I've been intimidated by the lack of good documentation and examples. I'm not an expert like some of you and I really need good tutorials. Backbone excels because of the large community. Knockout has some killer walkthroughs - http://learn.knockoutjs.com/ . Now that Ember.js 1.0 is on the horizon, is this getting better? I want to learn!

It seems like the problem is that things are changing so quickly with Ember.js that any documentation (blog posts, guides, etc.) that is available is horribly out of date.

I just spent a few days trying to build an app with Ember.js and had a lot of trouble trying to figure out what is the current best practice for structuring my app. Should I be using a Router or StateManager or Controllers or something else. Clearly the project is progressing very quickly, which is great, but with so many new ideas being tested out, it's currently difficult to figure out the "right" way to build an app with Ember.js.

Re: Ember.js 1.0 Prerelease

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I really do love what Ember brings but I need, need, need a production ready persistence layer. Backbone has me spoiled in that area.

Have you seen Ember-Data? https://github.com/emberjs/data

That was his point, he said production ready.

Re: Ember.js 1.0 Prerelease

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I recently tried angular.js and then chose Ember.js, I ended up struggling with it for about a week, after which it was easy enough. Since then, I've written two relatively simple internal apps with it in less than a week.

Hmm, I recently decided to get into the webapp/js stuff and decided to start with Ember, but the lack of documentation was too much for me. Now I'm learning angular and I love it. Could you elucidate more on your decision? Specifically, was anything harder in angular/easier in ember?

Firstly, I haven't been into webdev for a long time. I've been working on iOS for a little over 2 years now and given that prior, I found the semantics of ember.js to be a little more intuitive than angular.js.

At my current gig, I'm working on a vehicle fleet routing system, where my primary focus is essentially on getting the core algorithm right. I could have delegated to UI to someone else, who is better at these things than me. But eventually I had some free time and decided to do it on my own. Most of the UI is around a big Google Map, and given the limited time, I couldn't figure out how to write a wrapper view around it with Angular.js but with Ember it was fairly straightforward. It's very likely that I haven't explored Angular enough, but my primary focus here was to ship it to our internal users asap. Also, since I'd proudly told my boss that I don't need a front end guy, I had to get something working to save face. If Ember didn't work, I would've tried Backbone.js. BTW, like everyone else, I love the simplicity of Backbone.js.

Also, the ng-* attributes in angular templates feel a tad bit unpleasant. Handlebars templates OTOH, were very familiar. Probably because I'd used Mustache templates in an iOS project some time ago.

Actually, I found the documentation of Ember.js to be pretty good. There aren't enough examples around, but the documentation is pretty decent. Besides that, I learnt quite a bit of advanced undocumented APIs from Clemens Müller's blog (http://code418.com/).

Re: Ember.js 1.0 Prerelease

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Off topic but can a another Windows user can tell me if the text looks horrible to you as it does to me? http://i.imgur.com/rooNb.png I know Chrome has bad font rendering problems on Windows but this is just atrocious. Also FF is a bit better but not by much. This usually happens to me with webfonts only. The fact that I see so little complaints about this online make me think that perhaps it has something to do with…

What I see matches your screens. The font renders poorly on Windows (Chrome & Firefox), on 2 different PCs (one Vista, one Windows 7). Cleartype is enabled (default). I've seen similar problems with web fonts before, but this is especially bad (probably exacerbated by the small font-size) so you're not alone. Shame, as it detracts from the rest of the design which is pleasingly beautiful.

Back on-topic: Very interested in this release, router sounds especially promising. Hope to see some docs on that soon.

Re: Ember.js 1.0 Prerelease

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post #4

Off topic but can a another Windows user can tell me if the text looks horrible to you as it does to me? http://i.imgur.com/rooNb.png I know Chrome has bad font rendering problems on Windows but this is just atrocious. Also FF is a bit better but not by much. This usually happens to me with webfonts only. The fact that I see so little complaints about this online make me think that perhaps it has something to do with…

Could this be due to the background image?

Re: Ember.js 1.0 Prerelease

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post #4

Off topic but can a another Windows user can tell me if the text looks horrible to you as it does to me? http://i.imgur.com/rooNb.png I know Chrome has bad font rendering problems on Windows but this is just atrocious. Also FF is a bit better but not by much. This usually happens to me with webfonts only. The fact that I see so little complaints about this online make me think that perhaps it has something to do with…

this is a generic windows issue. usually noticed by users who switch over to it after using a mac for a while. lets just say font-aliasing is not one of windows strengths.
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