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Re: Huawei targeted in new European Parliament corruption probe

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Is it now? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_corruption_scandal_at_th...

You’ll notice that in one of the cases, it is creating felons, and in the other, it’s elevating felons to high office. Pretty key difference.

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That's a weird attitude. Ignoring real problem and burying one's head into the sand until its too late is what got US into the mess it is in now.

Are you implying that nobody should be able to criticize anything before its too late?

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Some questions from your side of the Atlantic (I’m Dutch): how is Europe in good shape while Germany is in a recession for years now? And while our governments are becoming as polarized as the US? And while electricity prices are so high that it’s cheaper to stick to fossil fuels? It all makes no sense. I don’t think it’s all hopeless in Europe. But pretending we are in good shape is also not the way to go.

Re: Huawei targeted in new European Parliament corruption probe

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You're never going to get rid of bribery and corruption entirely, unfortunately. Greed is way too strong a motivator. Hopefully people actually getting arrested and charged for it makes people think twice though.

Europe is now spending new billions in security. My guess is just new Political drama, a theatre to cover up corrupt spending.

You can have that opinion but until it's founded in reality it's just that: a baseless opinion.

Will there be issues? Of course, whenever money is involved there are issues but as usual: level and degree matter. It's not binary black-and-white.

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> Why is the police of a single country authorized to investigate EU parliament members just because of the geographical location? The EU is not a nation. It doesn't have a police. Crimes do not take place on its territory, because it has none. So then it'll fall onto the Belgium (or French) police. Wrt to the rest: just asking questions, right?

> It doesn't have a police It does, Europol. For this case, considering there were raids in multiple different countries within Europe, they probably were involved.

Europol doesn't have its own enforcement agents, it's an organisation relying on national police forces to enforce its actions. It's a coordinator, not a full blown police force...

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TBO, I've heard of cases where some European politicians were sentenced for bribery, but I rarely hear about such cases in the US.

I don't know, perhaps it's because American politicians have higher moral standards, or maybe it's because bribery is not illegal in the United States.

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Is it now? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_corruption_scandal_at_th...

You’ll notice that in one of the cases, it is creating felons, and in the other, it’s elevating felons to high office. Pretty key difference.

Whataboutism

Re: Huawei targeted in new European Parliament corruption probe

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Europe is now spending new billions in security. My guess is just new Political drama, a theatre to cover up corrupt spending.

You can have that opinion but until it's founded in reality it's just that: a baseless opinion. Will there be issues? Of course, whenever money is involved there are issues but as usual: level and degree matter. It's not binary black-and-white.

I bet you need lesson on corruption from EU court then, for exampl. Von der Leyen Commission loses COVID vaccine transparency case ahead of crucial vote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMub-tzrKmk

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>> Authorities suspect that Huawei lobbyists have paid bribes to MEPs in return for backing their cause in the European Union. > Isn’t that the cost of doing business in the EU? No, it's not. If you represent a business there is an official way to express your stance and lobby for your cause but bribing MEPs is a criminal offence (both for the perpetrator and those who receive personal benefits).

Have them sue you for something, reach a settlement and pay them "damages".

Re: Huawei targeted in new European Parliament corruption probe

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I believe people fundamentally misunderstand what the EU is and how it works.

Here is what I have learned from people who know the system very well and after working with it myself:

- The EU is designed to be influenced and run by lobbies. And it is in the open and assumed.

- The Parliament is a joke. And you can partially blame the member countries who really do not send their best there, because they know it is joke.

- It used to be that corruption was not a thing in the EU. Just because none of those Commission people would risk their career and benefits, and it was severely punished. So they wouldn't even accept a cup of coffee from you.

Now it does seem things got out of control, at least in the Parliament.

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