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The Tesla protests are getting bigger – and rowdier

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Re: The Tesla protests are getting bigger – and rowdier

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Post by Pigalowda »

walls wrote: post #20
Pigalowda wrote: post #13

The country’s citizens who aren’t part of the two personality cults are becoming violently opposed to the extra legally acting billionaire who is high on ketamine cutting up the 80 year old system that made him extraordinarily wealthy? Greed brings Americans together. That’s what makes America great. Only a small market correction and no official Q1 data and swing suburbia is starting to notice. Any further erosion o…

Which is the second personality cult, out of curiosity? There's nobody in the world that democrats would treat like Trump, for so many reasons.

Trump/Musk.

Trump is a catastrophic disaster. Just wait for Q1 and Q2, little boy. Go watch some YouTube.

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Post by Zigurd »

Pigalowda wrote: post #13

The country’s citizens who aren’t part of the two personality cults are becoming violently opposed to the extra legally acting billionaire who is high on ketamine cutting up the 80 year old system that made him extraordinarily wealthy? Greed brings Americans together. That’s what makes America great. Only a small market correction and no official Q1 data and swing suburbia is starting to notice. Any further erosion o…

Analogous to Brexit, possibly more destructive.

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Post by nsingh2 »

bhouston wrote: post #2

I prefer non violent responses personally. I think boycotts are better than actually burning down places or vandalizing them. If you condone violence that often leads to a further reactionary breakdown in society, a downward spiral, where as boycotts don’t. Boycotts and non violent protests also remove the ability to turn it back on the protests and say they are the one who are unreasonable. But introducing violence…

I would argue violence of a kind is already normalized, just towards the working class and the poor. Not the fist-to-face kind, but one that's institutionalized.

Also I would carefully consider coverages like this. Even if the vast majority of protests are peaceful, media coverage will be biased towards any altercations that happen.

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Post by plsdont »

croes wrote: post #4

> Boston man was arrested for slapping stickers of Musk making a Nazi-like salute on Tesla vehicles. What’s exactly the crime?

In most jurisdictions, damaging, destroying, defacing or otherwise affecting other people's property is usually considered an interference in their right to enjoy their property. This is usually described as vandalism or 'criminal mischief' in court and is a class A or B misdemeanor but for Teslas, since they're expensive to repair, this could amount to a felony.

Hope that helped, and I'm happy to answer follow ons.

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Post by smitty1e »

bhouston wrote: post #11
michaelt wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, these protests will lead to a reactionary downward spiral, leading to protesters storming the Capitol building trying to hang the Vice President, 4 years in the past :)

You are demonstrating exactly my point. If violence is normalized then it justifies more violence on both sides.

Boss, if conservatives had an actual violent bone on offer, the results would have long since been unspeakable.

The peddlers of violence deal in propaganda and all the negative social follies of our day, as well.

Sow peace.

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Post by xracy »

plsdont wrote: post #26
croes wrote: post #4

> Boston man was arrested for slapping stickers of Musk making a Nazi-like salute on Tesla vehicles. What’s exactly the crime?

In most jurisdictions, damaging, destroying, defacing or otherwise affecting other people's property is usually considered an interference in their right to enjoy their property. This is usually described as vandalism or 'criminal mischief' in court and is a class A or B misdemeanor but for Teslas, since they're expensive to repair, this could amount to a felony. Hope that helped, and I'm happy to answer follow ons.

It's wild to me that this is a crime. To be clear, I understand that it is, but I don't want us to engage with the letter of the law, I want to engage with the spirit of "does it make sense that putting a sticker on something is a crime"

This is literally something I see 5-year-olds do (put stickers on property)

Like, I get there's risk to the paint of the vehicle, but we're talking about putting a sticker (light adhesive) on a vehicle. And describing that this could rise to a felony.

This is an example that at least 4 people think obviously rises to the level of a felony.

Spray paint, I get, yes vandalism. Stickers, baffle me. Also, what does it say about your vehicle, that removing a sticker from it takes off the paint.

What a time to be alive.

Re: The Tesla protests are getting bigger – and rowdier

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Post by esalman »

tacker2000 wrote: post #3

He has alienated his green/liberal former fanbase, and his new one doesn't really like EVs...

His current biggest fan just had one delivered. I see some ring wing celebrities buying too. It remains to be seen at what point his hillbilly fans start replacing f150s with cybertrucks.
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