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The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by llm_nerd »

drumhead wrote: post #4

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You are being downvoted, but people surely realize this is 100% true, right? Not only is it 100% true, it is inevitably going to be the outcome. Google will not have to divest Chrome.

Sundar just has to pay the $5M to have dinner at Mara Lago and the next day Trump will be talking about how unfairly Google has been treated, probably blaming China or Canada or something for this DOJ action, and the DOJ will drop the remedy. Probably will fire some employees for daring to pursue this while they're at it.

Whichever oligarch or ruling class ultra-rich whispers in Trump's ear last gets the full force of government for their cause.

Like, surely everyone knows this is absolutely how your banana-republic, profoundly corrupt government works now, right? At least be honest about it.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by protimewaster »

delduca wrote: post #10
lifeinthevoid wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switch to Firefox!

https://adguard.com/en/blog/mozilla-deletes-promise-to-never...

If someone was previously using Chrome, though, they're probably not that protective off their data. So it would seem like Firefox is a decent solution even if it is selling your data. Google was probably selling your data too...

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by ekianjo »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #19
re-thc wrote: post #12

Can Google just "donate" Chrome to a foundation like a lot of big companies do to deal with this? Maybe we'll soon have Apache Chrome!

Apache is where projects go to slowly die.

Really? Airflow, Arrow, Iceberg, Kafka are dying projects?

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by malfist »

lolinder wrote: post #16
awnird wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tiktok ban was the same way, until it wasn't. Remarkable that people are still falling for this.

The TikTok ban was overwhelmingly unpopular among several important demographics and undoing the ban formed a part of Trump's 2024 campaign. His decisions with TikTok this year were a reversal from 2020 but entirely expected based on his 2024 campaign, so that's not a valid comparison.

What about all the other times Trump has done something like that?

Trump's MO seems to be to take something away, then give it back and declare himself the savior of it. Just look at all the chaos with tariffs recently

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by drivingmenuts »

newsclues wrote: post #7

I don't care that Google, Apple or Microsoft have their own browser. Especially not when there are other third party browsers. Wouldn't say no to a government funded one that was secure and tested with government services. There are some issues with the big tech giants that is likely harmful to consumers and the industry, and I'd welcome anti-trust investigations into all of them, but I feel like minor issues like br…

> Especially not when there are other third party browsers. Wouldn't say no to a government funded one that was secure and tested with government services.

Which government, though? The US is mired in corruption at the moment, and the UK is taking an extended dump on privacy, Russia is … Russia and China doesn't really believe in privacy or freedom of speech, among other things.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by ekianjo »

delduca wrote: post #9
cagenut wrote: post #3

good. ublock origin finally stopped working for me two days ago and for the first time in like 20 f'n years I got a popup yesterday.

Safari + Wipr, 100% adblocking in my experiments.

Safari only exists on the Apple platforms

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by llm_nerd »

lolinder wrote: post #11

To try to stem the tide of "Trump will just make this go away because ${corruption}", I want to remind everyone of a few things: * This is not a Biden-admin lawsuit. It was launched by the first Trump admin. * Of the 14 co-plaintiffs, only 1 (CA) is a state that didn't vote for Trump in 2024. The Colorado Plaintiff States include another 16 red states, for a total of 29 red states represented. As much as it's trendy…

"It was launched by the first Trump admin"

The first Trump admin was positively benign and adult compared to the current one. The first Trump admin had significant checks and balances on its behaviours.

And of course almost everyone who served in that first Trump admin campaigned against/warned about Trump this time, which should be telling. Or maybe they're just "RINOs" or something.

"As much as it's trendy in 2025 to talk about this admin as though it's entirely unprincipled"

This administration is extraordinarily unprincipled and self-serving. The DOJ as a tool for use at the leisure and to the benefit of the president/king is blatantly in the open[1].

"Google's not getting out of this from just a small amount of kowtowing now"

I would bet real money they absolutely will get out from this. Not only that they will get out from it, they'll get the public "treated unfairly" speech as well.

[1] - There is a major plot point in the 1993 movie The Pelican Brief where the simple insinuation that the president influenced the DOJ in any way would be so politically devastating that it would destroy his administration. This is so quaint now. How far the country has fallen.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by martinsnow »

lolinder wrote: post #16
awnird wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tiktok ban was the same way, until it wasn't. Remarkable that people are still falling for this.

The TikTok ban was overwhelmingly unpopular among several important demographics and undoing the ban formed a part of Trump's 2024 campaign. His decisions with TikTok this year were a reversal from 2020 but entirely expected based on his 2024 campaign, so that's not a valid comparison.

Essentially what you're saying is Google need to tell their users they will lose a lot if chrome is sold, and Google needs to say a few nice things about trump to get the same treatment.
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