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62% of Canadians Plan to Avoid the U.S. for at Least the Next Year

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Re: 62% of Canadians Plan to Avoid the U.S. for at Least the Next Year

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Post by TylerE »

fzeroracer wrote: post #10
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #3

I am honestly baffled what this whole shitstorm is about. Like why did Trump want to bash on Canada in the first place? None of his purported reasons pass the laugh test. Fentanyl trafficking? As has been widely reported, less than 1% of fentanyl that has been caught enters through the Canadian border. And if Trump cares so much about drug trafficking, why did he pardon the Silk Road founder, which did over $200 mill…

I don't think there's a point in looking for a rationale. His mind is exceedingly addled and he's even less coherent than he was during his first term. Combined with delegating responsibility to a bunch of people high on various drugs constantly telling him to do X or Y or Z his policy is 'whoever talks to him first'.

Important correction: It's whoever talked to him last. He has flipflopped (remember when THAT was enough to doom a political career?) on virtually every possible issue, most multiple times.

Re: 62% of Canadians Plan to Avoid the U.S. for at Least the Next Year

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Post by quadragenarian »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #3

I am honestly baffled what this whole shitstorm is about. Like why did Trump want to bash on Canada in the first place? None of his purported reasons pass the laugh test. Fentanyl trafficking? As has been widely reported, less than 1% of fentanyl that has been caught enters through the Canadian border. And if Trump cares so much about drug trafficking, why did he pardon the Silk Road founder, which did over $200 mill…

My belief is partially his rationale is/was to try to extract "border concessions" and by that I mean ask Canada to give away some of its land to the US. It seems bonkers but when you compare Trump to Putin who's clearly trying to expand mother Russia, it's not that different than any strongman with a big army's approach.

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Post by _aavaa_ »

WorldPeas wrote: post #8

There are several Canadians by me selling their (winter) houses at lower than market rates. I asked them about it and they cited the current situation, but I'm not sure if they were doing it to get liquidity to brace themselves for economic conflict or because they were afraid of property seizure.

It could be that they want out of the country without leaving a big asset behind

Re: 62% of Canadians Plan to Avoid the U.S. for at Least the Next Year

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Post by gruez »

epoxia wrote: post #4

An interesting barometer of the tensions, is by looking at Canadian grocers website. All that I have seen, have "buy Canadian" and "produced in Canada" plastered onto most products. Even Walmart has a "made in Canada" tab.

I wouldn't read too much into this. I wouldn't read too much into this. A few years ago it was "black businesses", but I doubt anyone was actually basing their purchasing decisions on it. It's just businesses trying to ride the current thing.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/31/21348990/google-black-own...

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-gave-big-companies-sm...

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Post by awnird »

gruez wrote: post #24
epoxia wrote: post #4

An interesting barometer of the tensions, is by looking at Canadian grocers website. All that I have seen, have "buy Canadian" and "produced in Canada" plastered onto most products. Even Walmart has a "made in Canada" tab.

I wouldn't read too much into this. I wouldn't read too much into this. A few years ago it was "black businesses", but I doubt anyone was actually basing their purchasing decisions on it. It's just businesses trying to ride the current thing. https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/31/21348990/google-black-own... https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-gave-big-companies-sm...

Huh?

You seem to be talking about a USA social phenomenon that happened in USA?

You are gravely misunderstanding what is currently happening. Now that the depths of American treachery and bloodthirst have been laid bare, the mood in Canada is similar to January 2022 Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/world/canada/trump-trudea...

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Post by matthewdgreen »

outrun86 wrote: post #15
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #3

I am honestly baffled what this whole shitstorm is about. Like why did Trump want to bash on Canada in the first place? None of his purported reasons pass the laugh test. Fentanyl trafficking? As has been widely reported, less than 1% of fentanyl that has been caught enters through the Canadian border. And if Trump cares so much about drug trafficking, why did he pardon the Silk Road founder, which did over $200 mill…

Canadian here, who is also not a Trump fan. It is true that Canada has extremely lax border controls and there are complex organized crime networks that exploit this inside of and through Canada. The US security establishment is aware of this, as is the Canadian security establishment. The 1% fentanyl headline is indeed widely reported, it’s also a red herring. The simple answer is Canada doesn’t really look, so not…

Ordinarily when there's a really big problem, a President will go to some effort to explain to the public what the problem is, and how their actions will fix it. Apparently this problem is definitely motivation Trump and is also somehow so deeply hidden that we can only find out about it from random newsletter sites.

I'm not saying that this makes it BS. But I'm also saying if this doesn't ring your BS meter, you don't have one anymore.

Re: 62% of Canadians Plan to Avoid the U.S. for at Least the Next Year

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Post by Larrikin »

gruez wrote: post #24
epoxia wrote: post #4

An interesting barometer of the tensions, is by looking at Canadian grocers website. All that I have seen, have "buy Canadian" and "produced in Canada" plastered onto most products. Even Walmart has a "made in Canada" tab.

I wouldn't read too much into this. I wouldn't read too much into this. A few years ago it was "black businesses", but I doubt anyone was actually basing their purchasing decisions on it. It's just businesses trying to ride the current thing. https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/31/21348990/google-black-own... https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-gave-big-companies-sm...

I didn't at the time but now with the naked racism of the current administration I've been going back to these kinds of lists.

Re: 62% of Canadians Plan to Avoid the U.S. for at Least the Next Year

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Post by gruez »

awnird wrote: post #25
gruez wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't read too much into this. I wouldn't read too much into this. A few years ago it was "black businesses", but I doubt anyone was actually basing their purchasing decisions on it. It's just businesses trying to ride the current thing. https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/31/21348990/google-black-own... https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-gave-big-companies-sm...

Huh? You seem to be talking about a USA social phenomenon that happened in USA? You are gravely misunderstanding what is currently happening. Now that the depths of American treachery and bloodthirst have been laid bare, the mood in Canada is similar to January 2022 Ukraine. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/world/canada/trump-trudea...

>You seem to be talking about a USA social phenomenon that happened in USA?

Corporations cashing in on the current thing is hardly something limited to the US.

>You are gravely misunderstanding what is currently happening. Now that the depths of American treachery and bloodthirst have been laid bare, the mood in Canada is similar to January 2022 Ukraine.

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Re: 62% of Canadians Plan to Avoid the U.S. for at Least the Next Year

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Post by [deleted] »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #3

I am honestly baffled what this whole shitstorm is about. Like why did Trump want to bash on Canada in the first place? None of his purported reasons pass the laugh test. Fentanyl trafficking? As has been widely reported, less than 1% of fentanyl that has been caught enters through the Canadian border. And if Trump cares so much about drug trafficking, why did he pardon the Silk Road founder, which did over $200 mill…

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Post by [deleted] »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #3

I am honestly baffled what this whole shitstorm is about. Like why did Trump want to bash on Canada in the first place? None of his purported reasons pass the laugh test. Fentanyl trafficking? As has been widely reported, less than 1% of fentanyl that has been caught enters through the Canadian border. And if Trump cares so much about drug trafficking, why did he pardon the Silk Road founder, which did over $200 mill…

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