Earlier quoted context omitted.
If US allows these cheap electric cars for at least 2-3 years, I would say it would be great for everybody except car companies and Elon.
Unfortunately, the US would rather subject its consumers to legacy auto and Tesla prices and lack of competition vs enabling imports to drive down domestic prices to improve affordability. Poor policy is unfortunate.
Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked
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Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked
#22If this graph is the evidence for "Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked" isn't it also the evidence proving "global car sales have peaked"?
Even in 2024 there were still some production issues coming out of the covid years. 2023 had lots of issues.
So it's unclear what's actually going to happen, if normal markets resume.
(At least in North America, the car manufacturing market will go bananas soon with new tariffs)
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#23Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked
#24What's strange to me is according to the graph it's not just combustion engine cars that peaked, cars overall more or less did too, in the graph. Are trucks like the F150 not being captured by this data? How literal is "cars"?
Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked
#25Reasons:
* the driving experience is just much, much better: punch & acceleration, stability, quietness, etc.
* if you charge at home it is a lot cheaper than gas
* it is so easy to "fuel": you plug it in when you arrive home and unplug the next morning
Edit: also, after I installed solar cells at home, I drive almost for free!
Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked
#26If this graph is the evidence for "Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked" isn't it also the evidence proving "global car sales have peaked"?
But EVs are eating enough market share that combustion cars are likely never climbing past their peak again.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nonsense, China's future is looking brighter by the day!
But I repeat myself, apologies to Twain Downhill = good, momentum is unstoppable, nothing stops the electrification transition, we’re simply arguing time horizon now; China will be the clean energy and mobility manufacturer to the world. (50% of car sales in China in 2024 were battery electric or plug in hybrid)
Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked
#28If this graph is the evidence for "Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked" isn't it also the evidence proving "global car sales have peaked"?
This graph shows 2023 only. Even in 2024 there were still some production issues coming out of the covid years. 2023 had lots of issues. So it's unclear what's actually going to happen, if normal markets resume. (At least in North America, the car manufacturing market will go bananas soon with new tariffs)
Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked
#29I have an EV (Kia Niro EV 2024). I don't want ever to go back to gas. Reasons: * the driving experience is just much, much better: punch & acceleration, stability, quietness, etc. * if you charge at home it is a lot cheaper than gas * it is so easy to "fuel": you plug it in when you arrive home and unplug the next morning Edit: also, after I installed solar cells at home, I drive almost for free!
Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked
#30Even in cities that are pretty hostile to bikes, electric bikes/scooters are an amazing middle point between walking and all the expense of a car (purchase, loans, fuel, maintenance, insurance, registration, tickets, etc.).