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Crossing the uncanny valley of conversational voice

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Re: Crossing the uncanny valley of conversational voice

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Post by iscrewyou »

singularity2001 wrote: post #15

pretty impressive demo but not my style I mean the constant jabbing and kind of unintelligent behavior. so yeah it feels pretty uncanny but unfortunately in a negative annoying way. I don't think this is a limitation of the model they could just adopt to more scientific users in a more cooperative way, similar to how ChatGPT has this very sophisticated aura. I don't like how systems which have no emotions constantly…

All the models do that. If you tell them to keep it short and to the point, they oblige.

Re: Crossing the uncanny valley of conversational voice

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Post by jofzar »

hn_user82179 wrote: post #4
monroewalker wrote: post #2

This was already posted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43221377 but I’m really surprised at the lack of attention this model is getting. The responsiveness and apparent personality are pretty mind blowing. It’s similar to what OpenAI had initially demoed for advanced voice mode, at least for the voice conversation portion. The demo interactions are recorded, which is mentioned in their disclaimer under th…

It was genuinely startling how human it felt. Apparently they are planning on open-sourcing some of their work as well as selling glasses (presumably with the voice assistant). I’m very excited to have a voice assistant like this and am almost a bit worried I will start feeling emotionally attached to a voice assistant with this level of human-like sound.

I still feel like they don't have the right amount of human to them, maybe it's because I'm Australian and it sounds like I'm hearing an American robot?

Edit: well I asked the "male" model to speak more like an Australian and yep, getting way more uncanny. If it had an Australian accent I think it would mess with me more

Re: Crossing the uncanny valley of conversational voice

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Post by singularity2001 »

iscrewyou wrote: post #21
singularity2001 wrote: post #15

pretty impressive demo but not my style I mean the constant jabbing and kind of unintelligent behavior. so yeah it feels pretty uncanny but unfortunately in a negative annoying way. I don't think this is a limitation of the model they could just adopt to more scientific users in a more cooperative way, similar to how ChatGPT has this very sophisticated aura. I don't like how systems which have no emotions constantly…

All the models do that. If you tell them to keep it short and to the point, they oblige.

ideally they should but when I asked the model to talk about the axioms of group theory it turned really sad and noncooperative;)

One interesting aspect was when I said what the fuck it ruined the whole conversation, maybe there will be a co-evolution of mannerism, so humans will have to learn that the way they talk to machines will have consequences down the line. Or we teach the machines to be cooperative no matter what, just like ChatGPT (or north koreans).

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Post by pmarreck »

kats wrote: post #5

AI voice is an overwhelmingly harmful technology. It's biggest use will be to hurt people.

Nope. Awareness will inoculate people. “Authenticating” someone via the mere sound of their voice was always broken, anyway… Ever see the great movie Sneakers (1992)?

Re: Crossing the uncanny valley of conversational voice

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Post by sivers »

bloomingkales wrote: post #11

This is so good that it's disarming. People are going to blabber everything to it, so we need a local private model. It's a lot to ask, I know. Incredible tech.

Agreed. I just had that moment like the guy in the movie "Her", the first time he speaks to his OS. Laughing at myself for talking to a computer like a real person. Then had to hang up because it crossed that uncanny valley.

But then I thought of one more question to ask, reconnected to ask it, and it said, "Hey! You hung up just as we were just getting to the good stuff!" which threw me off, so I stammered gobsmacked for a minute, and it made fun of my stammering, imitating it. Whoa! So so SO good! Crazy good.

I'm creeped-out by this being on someone else's server, but if it was fully local-hosted-private, that might even get more creepy if I allowed myself to really talk freely to this thing.

Re: Crossing the uncanny valley of conversational voice

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Post by anon373839 »

monroewalker wrote: post #2

This was already posted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43221377 but I’m really surprised at the lack of attention this model is getting. The responsiveness and apparent personality are pretty mind blowing. It’s similar to what OpenAI had initially demoed for advanced voice mode, at least for the voice conversation portion. The demo interactions are recorded, which is mentioned in their disclaimer under th…

It really is an astonishing technological feat! Also note that the largest model they trained is only 8.3B parameters (8B backbone + .3B decoder). It's exciting to think that they're going to be releasing this model under an Apache 2.0 license.
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