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Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#22

What sparked this heated discussion? Zelensky asked JD what if Putin breaks the agreed diplomacy as he had done previously?

Looks like it started with JD saying that Zelensky wasn't "thankful" and was instead trying to plead (JD said "litigate" IIRC) his case to the American public (which of course he was, that's what these meetings are for otherwise you have them in a private room).

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#25

Its time for EUrope to step up. If the US doesn't want to be the "arsenal of democracy" and the "leader of the free world" any more then only the EU (together with other countries like UK+AU+NZ+SK+JP & more) can do it.

Wouldn't be a bad time for the EU to announce that it's considering closing X number of US military bases in Europe, including the 6th Fleet HQ in Naples. That might get Trump back to the table.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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post #5

Sadly, “Trump takes military action against Ukraine” was on my Bingo card for this administration. We’re getting there, aren’t we?

Not likely. But by withdrawing military aid they're basically giving Ukraine to the Russians.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#27
> In a fireworks-filled public confrontation unlike any seen between an American president and foreign leader in modern times, Mr. Trump and Mr. Vance castigated Mr. Zelensky for not being grateful enough for U.S. support in its war with Russia and sought to strong-arm him into making a peace deal on whatever terms the Americans dictate.

Jebus, how do you screw up a photo op?

Buch of children in the US executive branch.

I suppose they think they look “strong” but it looks more insecure and incompetent to me.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#29

It was as if they invited him to the Whitehouse to set him up for a lecture and scolding. They had no intention of anything other than humiliating him in front of the world. It's shameful what our administration has done.

This is a good reminder why diplomacy is usually done behind closed doors. "Transparency" is being used as the refuge of a scoundrel.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#30
Alternate feed for the video here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jqLtIrRqDg

https://apnews.com/live/donald-trump-latest-news-2-28-2025

Is it just me, or does it seem like the conversation swerves suddenly to "you're disrespecting..." It just seemed like a complete change of subject.

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