Matrix Foundation to shut down bridges if it doesn't raise $100K

> T&S staffing alone is about $360k/yr, and server and SRE costs about $240k/yr

And per https://matrix.to/#/!sWpnrYUMmaBrlqfRdn:matrix.org/$pupglsTX...

> There's a rough cost breakdown available to the Governing Board right now in Discourse, which we'll be polishing and publishing after our first Finance and Fundraising Committee meeting

So the financial report is finally coming together.

We have quite a handful of volunteers and a strong community that is helping us a lot already. But some things cannot be offloaded to volunteers (typically T&S and the SRE team running the matrix.org homeserver).

Can you expand on your doubts for the ability to execute? The Foundation has a narrow set of programs on purpose, and it's not implementing any server or client for example. Most of the budget is going to matrix.org and keeping it safe (which is a lot of invisible and thankless work).

e.g. t2bot.io also runs Matrix bridges and the costs are only about $1.5k/mo [0], not $100k

[0]: https://t2bot.io/donations/

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I am happy to pay for services like element.io, and I in fact did pay for their hosting services. I am no stranger to self-hosting, and EMS was more expensive then other hosting services. But....I figured it would be nice to help pay for development.

EMS then decided to say that if you didn't have a minimum of 50 users (at 5$/user), we wouldn't support you. So I had to migrate my instance, where I pay less for more service (etke.cc doesn't make you pay per user).

I mean....it's EMS' call that they don't think supporting a single user instance is worth the hassle, and I get it, supporting what they do is expensive, but it rubs me the wrong way to see posts like this that they are complaining about operating costs when I used to pay to support the operating costs.

What could possibly go wrong if users in a multi user chat see messages in different orders? This decision is a perfect example of how smart systems engineers can be so completely divorced from the real problem (human communication) that they make completely asinine choices justified by implementation details no user cares about.

Matrix needs to die so it can stop sucking the air out of this space. The funding problems are also completely predictable but that's an opinion for another time.

0 https://artificialworlds.net/blog/2024/12/04/message-order-i...