1328 bytes for a hello world? BLOAT!
Time to rice my unix!
1972 Unix V2 "Beta" Resurrected
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
good luck though. my emulator is not particularly user friendly, as in, it has no user interface. i recommend simh (although perhaps not for this thing in particular).
So what mechanism do you have set up to reply 4 minutes after being mentioned? :)
Compulsively checking HN i suppose :D
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#23I love this! first time I see people use 'ed' for work!!! I wonder who else has to deal with ed also... recently I had to connect to an ancient system where vi was not available, I had to write my own editor, so whoever needs an editor for an ancient system, ping me (it is not too fancy). amazing work by the creators of this software and by the researchers, you have my full respect guys. those are the real engineers!
The keystokes are pretty much what you'd press in vim to perform the same actions. Except that append mode ends when they finished the line (apparently) rather than having to press Esc. The feedback from the editor, however, is… challenging.
In ed, append mode ends by entering a single '.' on an empty line, and then pressing enter. You can see that happening in the article.
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#24Cool. Can we enter that time portal and live in that alternate reality?
When gasoline was leaded, cigarette smoke was normal everywhere, and asbestos was used for everything you can think of? It is a fascinating decade but also quality of life likely has skyrocketed since.
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#25I love this! first time I see people use 'ed' for work!!! I wonder who else has to deal with ed also... recently I had to connect to an ancient system where vi was not available, I had to write my own editor, so whoever needs an editor for an ancient system, ping me (it is not too fancy). amazing work by the creators of this software and by the researchers, you have my full respect guys. those are the real engineers!
Hmm. I still use ed now and then. It's an alias to vim I assume these days.
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#261328 bytes for a hello world? BLOAT!
My https://github.com/pts/minilibc686 can do printf-hello-world on i386 in less than 1 KiB. write-hello-world is less than 170 bytes.
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#27Spock levels of fascinating from me. I want to learn how to compile a pdp11 emulator on my mac.
Too easy! Going to build one with NAND gates.
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#28Spock levels of fascinating from me. I want to learn how to compile a pdp11 emulator on my mac.
Compiling an emulator is quite easy: have a look at simh. It's very portable and should just work out of the box. Once you've got that working, try installing a 2.11BSD distribution. It's well-documented and came after a lot of the churn in early Unix. After that, I've had great fun playing with RT-11, to the point that I've actually written some small apps on it.
The daves garage youtube has an episode where he documents the pitfalls of compiling 2bsd for a PDP-11/83. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBFeM-sa2YY basically it is an art on a memory constrained system.
What I found entertaining was when he was explaining how to compile the kernel, I went Oh! that's where openbsd gets it from. it is still a very similar process.
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#29Recovering RF tapes, even a simple text file demonstrates buffer space that is not being used by the dos, or .iso file. Even in a 2.11 BSD distro, a default tiling and window manager has to be installed on the native OS. So yes, going with KDE or the X11 wm.
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#30I love this! first time I see people use 'ed' for work!!! I wonder who else has to deal with ed also... recently I had to connect to an ancient system where vi was not available, I had to write my own editor, so whoever needs an editor for an ancient system, ping me (it is not too fancy). amazing work by the creators of this software and by the researchers, you have my full respect guys. those are the real engineers!
I had to use ed to configure X on my alpha/vms machine back when I had it, there was something wrong with the terminfo setup so visual editors didn't work, only line-based programs.