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Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Post by ziddoap » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 5:42 PM UTC

Aransentin wrote: post #9

This article has a strong ChatGPT smell. Things like "in the world of", "let's dive into", the bullet points, "conclusion" section, etc. Anyone else have the same feeling?

Is there a list of phrases and words to avoid, to not be accused of using AI? It's getting kind of ridiculous what people identify an "AI smell". I understand if the word "delve" shows up five times in as many paragraphs, I guess, but just having a "conclusion" section is a smell now? Using the word "innovative" is a smell?

I feel awfully sorry for kids in school these days. Teachers must think everything they write is AI, considering they're still learning to write effectively and probably like to use bullet points, popular phrases like "dive into", and structured layouts that include introduction and conclusion sections.

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Post by LelouBil » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 5:43 PM UTC

remram wrote: post #12

> Selecting a row near the doors can increase the likelihood of passenger turnover I don't think that's true. People get off when they get to their destination whether or not it is easy to reach the door, and sit in available spaces.

People that only have a few stations to go tend to sit closer to doors.

But also, now that I think about it, this may only be caused by french metro layouts, I'm from France too and this fact seems true to me.

If your train is only a long corridor with seats on the edges, the "difficulty" of getting to/from a door is almost the same everywhere.

But in the french metro you have foldable seats right next to the doors, and groups of 4 seats between doors, and when the metro is busy, it's harder to get out of these 4 seats groupings.

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Post by Aransentin » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 5:52 PM UTC

cauliflower2718 wrote: post #16

Aransentin wrote: post #9

This article has a strong ChatGPT smell. Things like "in the world of", "let's dive into", the bullet points, "conclusion" section, etc. Anyone else have the same feeling?

In section "Works in every major city!", the author mentions they are from France. Given that, it's not surprising that they used an AI to help with translation.

Sure, but the structure seems quite ChatGPTish as well, with e.g. the bullet points and section choice. You wouldn't get that by just faithfully translating a french source text from English.

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Post by mihaaly » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 5:56 PM UTC

ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #20

The most obvious issues with this is that the game boils down to predicting passenger patterns, but you're still just comparing two RNGs, which is one of the worst kinds of games. I also don't think this can be called Poker, really. Poker is an imperfect information game, where your hand tells you some information about your opponents' hands. It would be interesting to read HN's ideas on how you can simulate the shar…

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Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Post by marras » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 5:57 PM UTC

latexr wrote: post #7

jbs789 wrote: post #4

It’s not clear to me when or how you “choose” your row of 5. I feel dense but I don’t think this is described…

Notice the image which says “A pair of aces is a good start”, because two elderly people are sitting there. Think of it like each row being a pre-populated hand (which may be missing some cards) based on the people already sitting there. You pick it and then the “cards” change themselves between stations. In other words, you pick immediately once the game starts. Look around to see which row you think has the best ch…

I found myself looking for some rules on how you can influence your "hand" - is it "legal", for example:

- to stand in a specific place in order to (subtly) direct other passengers into a specific section of the car, or

- to take a seat yourself and give it up to an elderly person later on, in an attempt to gain an extra ace ;)

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Post by topherclay » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 5:58 PM UTC

Aransentin wrote: post #23

cauliflower2718 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In section "Works in every major city!", the author mentions they are from France. Given that, it's not surprising that they used an AI to help with translation.

Sure, but the structure seems quite ChatGPTish as well, with e.g. the bullet points and section choice. You wouldn't get that by just faithfully translating a french source text from English.

You might also note that in their first blog post they use the French language convention of puting a space before their exclamation marks and in this latest post they use the English language convention of no space.

>Now I can update this blog and push to github, instant deploy !

vs

>I would be delighted to hear from you!

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Post by klik99 » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 6:00 PM UTC

mihaaly wrote: post #24

ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #20

The most obvious issues with this is that the game boils down to predicting passenger patterns, but you're still just comparing two RNGs, which is one of the worst kinds of games. I also don't think this can be called Poker, really. Poker is an imperfect information game, where your hand tells you some information about your opponents' hands. It would be interesting to read HN's ideas on how you can simulate the shar…

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give him a break ;)! It’s fun to analyze and think “maybe this could actually work as a game, here’s the current flaws”. Seriously overthinking unserious things is one of the fun parts of HN IMO

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Post by savanaly » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 6:02 PM UTC

Aransentin wrote: post #9

This article has a strong ChatGPT smell. Things like "in the world of", "let's dive into", the bullet points, "conclusion" section, etc. Anyone else have the same feeling?

The sad thing is ChatGPT didn't invent that style. That was just the way clear, concise writing by skilled writers was at the time they trained the model. So now if you are actually a skilled writer who tries to convey ideas in a clear, concise way, you will appear robotic :(

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Post by pmarreck » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 6:04 PM UTC

Aransentin wrote: post #9

This article has a strong ChatGPT smell. Things like "in the world of", "let's dive into", the bullet points, "conclusion" section, etc. Anyone else have the same feeling?

FFS. I read it and learned something. Stop jousting windmills just because they seem like propellers on warplanes that are coming for you. Sometimes they are just windmills.

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Post by pmarreck » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 6:05 PM UTC

Aransentin wrote: post #23

cauliflower2718 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In section "Works in every major city!", the author mentions they are from France. Given that, it's not surprising that they used an AI to help with translation.

Sure, but the structure seems quite ChatGPTish as well, with e.g. the bullet points and section choice. You wouldn't get that by just faithfully translating a french source text from English.

Why do people care about this?