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Will AI take web developer jobs?

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Re: Will AI take web developer jobs?

#22

AI isn't taking American jobs. Foreign developer agencies utilizing AI and being paid a fraction of what American employees are being paid are taking American jobs.

Outsourcing literally in 100% cases results in shitty product. Every single time. So when some company outsources its development it is always good news - it can be pretty easily crushed with in-house dev team from a competitor.

It's happening at every single big company.

Re: Will AI take web developer jobs?

#23
post #8

It's missing one critical point: if AI makes a good developer 10% more productive, the industry needs 10% less developers to achieve the same output. You're not getting replaced by AI. You're getting replaced by a coworker using AI. It doesn't matter how poorly AI performs at any remotely complicated task, what matters is how many developer-hours it saves by not having to manually write as much boilerplate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox

Re: Will AI take web developer jobs?

#24
post #5

GPT4o-mini, I asked it to refactor my class to a property with backing field and trim. It did that, but it also lost my Email property in the process. I asked it about it and it apologized and gave it back. Same with GPT4o.

Have you tried o3-mini? I'm finding it to be significantly better than GPT-4o for code - I'm even finding myself using it in place of Claude 3.5 Sonnet a lot of the time.

Re: Will AI take web developer jobs?

#25
post #17
post #8

It's missing one critical point: if AI makes a good developer 10% more productive, the industry needs 10% less developers to achieve the same output. You're not getting replaced by AI. You're getting replaced by a coworker using AI. It doesn't matter how poorly AI performs at any remotely complicated task, what matters is how many developer-hours it saves by not having to manually write as much boilerplate.

> You're not getting replaced by AI. You're getting replaced by a coworker using AI. How long until people realise AI cannot take responsibility? Sure, that coworker can do 10% more coding. But can they handle 10% increase in mental workload to juggle all the hard problems? What about 20%? At what point do people start cracking?

Probably as much as companies can get away with, which likely will just be more and more as AI tools get better.

Re: Will AI take web developer jobs?

#26
It might replace juniors in the short term.

But by the time it can replace (not merely assist) senior engineers, anyone who has a job in front of a computer, about 80% of workers, will have their job automated by AI and we'll need an alternative (or big changes to) to capitalism. Otherwise, this particular economic system will experience massive collapse.

Re: Will AI take web developer jobs?

#27
post #8

It's missing one critical point: if AI makes a good developer 10% more productive, the industry needs 10% less developers to achieve the same output. You're not getting replaced by AI. You're getting replaced by a coworker using AI. It doesn't matter how poorly AI performs at any remotely complicated task, what matters is how many developer-hours it saves by not having to manually write as much boilerplate.

Dunno man, the times I’ve used AI to help me code, it got the solution wrong. I spent more time backtracking and fixing things than if I’d done it by hand in the first place. So it actually made me 20% less productive.

Re: Will AI take web developer jobs?

#28
post #8

It's missing one critical point: if AI makes a good developer 10% more productive, the industry needs 10% less developers to achieve the same output. You're not getting replaced by AI. You're getting replaced by a coworker using AI. It doesn't matter how poorly AI performs at any remotely complicated task, what matters is how many developer-hours it saves by not having to manually write as much boilerplate.

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