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Looking at the business pricing, Copilot is an optional add on.
Microsoft force upgraded most clients to Copilot included licenses. Nothing says Microsoft won't further change their arbitrary pricing and bundling structure.
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I don’t think he’s actually doing that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43050446
That’s ok. The author was not my target audience. On the face of it, changing their mind seemed improbable.
The costs shoot up drastically once you cross over 300 users. Happy to take feedback
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Tell me about it. I just can't get over why it is this costly. None of the features except excel or word seems to be of any use to the user. Hoards and hoards of unnecessary security features have been piled up
MXRoute plus Nextcloud is a viable groupware alternative, generally at a much lower cost per user. One of the bonus features being your email is much less likely to disappear within Outlook.com's mailservers. Not sure what is going sideways there, but those mailservers are not reliable and mail traces are ineffective in finding lost emails that have proof of delivery to the MX record listed outlook.com mailserver.
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Microsoft force upgraded most clients to Copilot included licenses. Nothing says Microsoft won't further change their arbitrary pricing and bundling structure.
I’m looking at their pricing page. It clearly says optional add on.
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#25I just noticed your other submission at HN, talking about some product similar to Microsoft 365: > I’m Harsh, CEO of DOPE (Dept of Office Productivity Efficiency). Big fan of Elon and DOGE. We’re currently applying for YC25. LOL. Nice. Looking forward to your LauchHN soon.
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That’s ok. The author was not my target audience. On the face of it, changing their mind seemed improbable.
Hi. I'm mainly trying to understand the different thoughts and tactics used when it comes to office productivity, especially Microsoft 365. The costs shoot up drastically once you cross over 300 users. Happy to take feedback
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Outsource mailservers to competent vendors like MXRoute at near zero cost. Stop focusing on the components that are pennies per user to outsource.
You cheerfully ignored the “other employees clicking random phishing links” issue that is non-trivial to solve by simply outsourcing SMTP server hosting.
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#29I just noticed your other submission at HN, talking about some product similar to Microsoft 365: > I’m Harsh, CEO of DOPE (Dept of Office Productivity Efficiency). Big fan of Elon and DOGE. We’re currently applying for YC25. LOL. Nice. Looking forward to your LauchHN soon.
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Hi. I'm mainly trying to understand the different thoughts and tactics used when it comes to office productivity, especially Microsoft 365. The costs shoot up drastically once you cross over 300 users. Happy to take feedback
The tone and tenor of the post are unlikely to elicit thoughtful technical responses from decision makers with 300+ seats and it is unlikely to engender much trust from those who do see it.