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Microsoft 365 costs are too much

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Re: Microsoft 365 costs are too much

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Looking at the business pricing, Copilot is an optional add on.

Microsoft force upgraded most clients to Copilot included licenses. Nothing says Microsoft won't further change their arbitrary pricing and bundling structure.

I’m looking at their pricing page. It clearly says optional add on.

Re: Microsoft 365 costs are too much

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I don’t think he’s actually doing that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43050446

That’s ok. The author was not my target audience. On the face of it, changing their mind seemed improbable.

Hi. I'm mainly trying to understand the different thoughts and tactics used when it comes to office productivity, especially Microsoft 365.

The costs shoot up drastically once you cross over 300 users. Happy to take feedback

Re: Microsoft 365 costs are too much

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Tell me about it. I just can't get over why it is this costly. None of the features except excel or word seems to be of any use to the user. Hoards and hoards of unnecessary security features have been piled up

MXRoute plus Nextcloud is a viable groupware alternative, generally at a much lower cost per user. One of the bonus features being your email is much less likely to disappear within Outlook.com's mailservers. Not sure what is going sideways there, but those mailservers are not reliable and mail traces are ineffective in finding lost emails that have proof of delivery to the MX record listed outlook.com mailserver.

Wouldn't management be difficult in this case?

Re: Microsoft 365 costs are too much

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post #13

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Microsoft force upgraded most clients to Copilot included licenses. Nothing says Microsoft won't further change their arbitrary pricing and bundling structure.

I’m looking at their pricing page. It clearly says optional add on.

It's an optional add on

Re: Microsoft 365 costs are too much

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I just noticed your other submission at HN, talking about some product similar to Microsoft 365: > I’m Harsh, CEO of DOPE (Dept of Office Productivity Efficiency). Big fan of Elon and DOGE. We’re currently applying for YC25. LOL. Nice. Looking forward to your LauchHN soon.

Thanks mate. Just trying to understand the market and potential pain points. Would love to hear your feedback as well

Re: Microsoft 365 costs are too much

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That’s ok. The author was not my target audience. On the face of it, changing their mind seemed improbable.

Hi. I'm mainly trying to understand the different thoughts and tactics used when it comes to office productivity, especially Microsoft 365. The costs shoot up drastically once you cross over 300 users. Happy to take feedback

The tone and tenor of the post are unlikely to elicit thoughtful technical responses from decision makers with 300+ seats and it is unlikely to engender much trust from those who do see it.

Re: Microsoft 365 costs are too much

#28
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Outsource mailservers to competent vendors like MXRoute at near zero cost. Stop focusing on the components that are pennies per user to outsource.

You cheerfully ignored the “other employees clicking random phishing links” issue that is non-trivial to solve by simply outsourcing SMTP server hosting.

You can't fix that with managed hosting either. If you think going with Workspace or O365 fixes that then I have to wonder what businesses you've been working at in the past.

Re: Microsoft 365 costs are too much

#29

I just noticed your other submission at HN, talking about some product similar to Microsoft 365: > I’m Harsh, CEO of DOPE (Dept of Office Productivity Efficiency). Big fan of Elon and DOGE. We’re currently applying for YC25. LOL. Nice. Looking forward to your LauchHN soon.

department of _ efficiency? no thanks, i'm out... good luck

Re: Microsoft 365 costs are too much

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi. I'm mainly trying to understand the different thoughts and tactics used when it comes to office productivity, especially Microsoft 365. The costs shoot up drastically once you cross over 300 users. Happy to take feedback

The tone and tenor of the post are unlikely to elicit thoughtful technical responses from decision makers with 300+ seats and it is unlikely to engender much trust from those who do see it.

Noted. Could you suggest some tips or references that could help. I would be really grateful
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