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"the Zooms don't show up" Jamie Dimon

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Re: "the Zooms don't show up" Jamie Dimon

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Phones are an addiction. I know executives who have a box outside the conference room and everyone has to put their phone in the box as they enter the meeting. They pick up their phone on the way out.

Do they make their employees ask for the hall pass to go to the bathroom as well?

Not that I've experienced, I guess that isn't as big a problem as people being distracted by their phones.

Re: "the Zooms don't show up" Jamie Dimon

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People fuck around at the office - a lot. Staring at phones, videos on the toilet, etc. That's lack of work ethic, not from location.

I used to play a MMO on my phone, and I stopped because my opponents were playing 16 hours a day. They would run it at work of course.

I swear to you that one of my teammates said hold on I have to walk into a meeting but once I settle in I can resume with us

Re: "the Zooms don't show up" Jamie Dimon

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Is creativity in banking really that important? Creativity in banking gave us the housing bubble. And the dot-com bubble. And redlining.

No, and it is highly ironic that sanctimonious Dimon is complaining about others’ work ethic when he is where he is only because his employer is deemed too big to fail.

Let’s see him do his “difficult” job without a blank check from US taxpayers.

Re: "the Zooms don't show up" Jamie Dimon

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post #9

I enjoyed the year I consulted at JPMC, they have some sharp people, and on the surface of it, who am I to criticise the boss of such a successful company? OTOH… I can see the argument that young people aren’t being exposed to older peers the same way and their learning may be stunted. But… I haven’t set foot in an office for five years now and I’m as productive as I ever was. Possibly more. As for his “people are di…

And realistically how many times is Jamie Dimon meeting with the entry level Zoomers? Here and there but the CEO spends his time meeting with exec and mid level management.

Re: "the Zooms don't show up" Jamie Dimon

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We have some really phoning it in zoom folks we've hired who do their job semi ok but are just awful and don't contribute to culture, are super dialed out. I don't want to totally damn them, because they have families and lives and other things going. But I've had a number of coworkers tell me they have re-adapted their code review to say near nothing (it won't be well received) and to otherwise end their own good-cu…

How do you get people to stop looking at their fucking phones during zoom meetings? Sure if we had a magic perfect management fairy that could sprinkle perfect management skills on the managers maybe people would be better at working remotely but people are mostly lazy and will mostly do whatever they can get away with. And its way easier to get away with looking at your fucking phone during a zoom meeting than an in…

Apart from anything else, I see most people at in person meetings in conferences on their laptops and such working away, that’s not a problem, but doing similar remotely is?

Seems more like neither of them really actually needed to be there. If you didn’t actually miss or note their lack of contribution, then they were perhaps less necessary. I’m perfectly engaged with the meetings that meet those criteria.

Re: "the Zooms don't show up" Jamie Dimon

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post #9

I enjoyed the year I consulted at JPMC, they have some sharp people, and on the surface of it, who am I to criticise the boss of such a successful company? OTOH… I can see the argument that young people aren’t being exposed to older peers the same way and their learning may be stunted. But… I haven’t set foot in an office for five years now and I’m as productive as I ever was. Possibly more. As for his “people are di…

I issued an ultimatum to staff in 2023 that they either return to the office or would be let go, and we saw a dramatic increase in productivity

Re: "the Zooms don't show up" Jamie Dimon

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post #9

I enjoyed the year I consulted at JPMC, they have some sharp people, and on the surface of it, who am I to criticise the boss of such a successful company? OTOH… I can see the argument that young people aren’t being exposed to older peers the same way and their learning may be stunted. But… I haven’t set foot in an office for five years now and I’m as productive as I ever was. Possibly more. As for his “people are di…

> I can see the argument that young people aren’t being exposed to older peers the same way and their learning may be stunted. I agree with this, but I didn't grow up with a phone in my hand. I didn't have a mobile phone until I was about 30 years old and I didn't have a smartphone until I was in my 40s. I can't work well with people over remote calls, I hate Zoom and desktop sharing, don't like slack or teams. I fin…

I can, and so can many others. I guess it comes down to preference and personality.

I spent so many years in offices, in open plan offices where whole teams would sit with their headphones on loud, trying to ignore the presence of all other humans, that actually working in my own space has been a relief.

In my 40s now though, I work on stuff I’m interested in, and have a work ethic that doesn’t require oversight. 20 years ago I may not have been so good at it.

Re: "the Zooms don't show up" Jamie Dimon

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How do you get people to stop looking at their fucking phones during zoom meetings? Sure if we had a magic perfect management fairy that could sprinkle perfect management skills on the managers maybe people would be better at working remotely but people are mostly lazy and will mostly do whatever they can get away with. And its way easier to get away with looking at your fucking phone during a zoom meeting than an in…

If people are checked out during meetings, maybe they don't really have to be there. When I set up a meeting I try to ensure only people who really, really need to be there are invited. Way too many meetings are like: "1. Eng Lead Presenter, 2. VP who's receiving the update, and 3-10. Team members involved in the project." If 3-10 are not expected to speak/contribute and already know what 1 is presenting, why the fuc…

Nope suppose they do need to be there and they arent listening because they're sending text messages and then when they are asked for their opinion they are lost because they weren't listening. This is the norm for zoom meetings.
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