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Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

It might've been backported at some point, but for a while if you wanted to get the most out of an AMD Ryzen 7xxx, you needed to be on Win11. Generally about an 11% performance improvement.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I loved using windows for a long time.

I could strip it down and it performed and stayed out of my way. It wasn't ever pretty, I didn't like a lot of it, but I could just get what I needed out of it.

Then it started to change, UI / UX had about 20 different flavors. I couldn't find settings anymore. Updates would change settings / undo my explicit settings. Eventually it felt like I was using an ADWARE OS.

I fled to macOS and haven't looked back. I'm even ok with less local gaming to avoid the windows hassle.

It's a bit of a sad thing for me. I do think fondly of my "old days windows" experiences in the sense that I was excited about updates and "Start Me Up" always reminds me of a special time in computing that I loved:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRdl1BjTG7c

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

Windows 11 is a strict downgrade, you can't even set your taskbar to be vertical.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

Agree, I use both Mac/Windows a lot and I feels like Apple usually has a couple OS features that make me want to upgrade whereas windows there's nothing

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Shows how much of a bubble I live in, most of my friends who play Steam are doing so on Linux with either a Steam Deck or just installing something like ChimeraOS on a desktop and plugging that into the TV.

I've been so entrenched in the Unixey space for like 13 years that going back to Windows would be a pretty substantial productivity drain in the short term, but I'm not sure I'd want to anyway, simply because gaming on Linux has gotten so good, largely thanks to Valve.

Like, it cannot be overstated how utterly good Proton is now. It's to a point where I almost never check compatibility, because it's more than likely going to work just fine. GameScope in particular is such wonderful thing in its own right, and it has genuinely made Linux the "Gaming OS" of choice for me.

I know it's not perfect, my understanding is that there are some games that break with online play with Proton, but for the games I play I have been very happy with Linux.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Well 2 years ago when I built a new desktop i took great care to order hardware that works on windows 11. Then I read the stories saying 11 has even more telemetry that you can't disable, ads on the start menu, Edge that you can't get rid of... and when I got around to setting up Windows on it I ordered a Win 10 license. They're still available even now, I think. Win 10 does try to trick me into upgrading to 11 rando…

I'm running Win11 but I had to check, because I forgot. I remember having to turn off a bunch of bullshit when I first installed Win on this machine but there aren't ads or anything. The most annoying thing it does is power cycle when I'm not expecting it, in order to update. Pretty sure there's a setting for that I haven't touched.

The power cycling is especially annoying for me since I dual boot and I (intentionally) have grub boot into Linux by default. The bright side is it encourages me to spend time in Linux by default!

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I loved using windows for a long time. I could strip it down and it performed and stayed out of my way. It wasn't ever pretty, I didn't like a lot of it, but I could just get what I needed out of it. Then it started to change, UI / UX had about 20 different flavors. I couldn't find settings anymore. Updates would change settings / undo my explicit settings. Eventually it felt like I was using an ADWARE OS. I fled to…

Same. Windows used to be pretty good from my perspective. Then, Microsoft started stuffing it to the gills with spy- and bloatware, so I moved on. Windows 10 was ok, but 11 is unacceptable.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Steam users are more likely to be on win 10 than others because they often spend more money on gaming rigs than people buying web browser machine. With the hardware requirements of win 11 (tpm, others) many gamers will not want to throw out their working machines to satisfy Microsoft's hardware demand.

It's hard to tell but it seems that no more than 20% of Steam users have pre 8th gen Intel CPU. I'm looking at CPUs with 4 or less cores and Intel was shipping them as late as 10th gen so it's probably considerably more so it's probably considerably less than that.

AFAIK most CPUs with > 4 cores are 8th gen or newer and should be supported (besides old Xeons, Skylake-X and such but I doubt there are that many of those ). Also not sure about AMD but their market share was quite low pre 2020.

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