The post hints at this, but having a shop where one can buy a privacy pass without an account makes sense. Should support some crypto currency (probably monero), and something like GNU Taler if that technology ever becomes usable.
Privacy Pass Authentication for Kagi Search
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Re: Privacy Pass Authentication for Kagi Search
#22Will the extension eventually be made available for Firefox on Android? Right now the Firefox extension link says that it's not compatible. P. S: I don't use the Kagi app in Android.
Re: Privacy Pass Authentication for Kagi Search
#23This seems cool, but I still think the pricing of kagi is rather steep. It is $5/mo for 300 searches a month, which is really going to get you under 10 a day... That's insufficient. Then $10/mo (or $108/yr) for unlimited. I'm curious if anyone knows, are companies like Google and Microsoft making more than $10/mo/user? We often talk about paying with our data, but it is always unclear how much that data is worth. Kag…
Re: Privacy Pass Authentication for Kagi Search
#24This seems cool, but I still think the pricing of kagi is rather steep. It is $5/mo for 300 searches a month, which is really going to get you under 10 a day... That's insufficient. Then $10/mo (or $108/yr) for unlimited. I'm curious if anyone knows, are companies like Google and Microsoft making more than $10/mo/user? We often talk about paying with our data, but it is always unclear how much that data is worth. Kag…
Re: Privacy Pass Authentication for Kagi Search
#25What's to stop someone on the Kagi side from just adding a new column to the token table that has the user (with their SessionCookie) who generated the token next to it? I don't see how this can't be trivially connected to the original token generator.
Exactly the question I had in mind. You can't rely on server side trust so I'm curious if I just misunderstood something...
Re: Privacy Pass Authentication for Kagi Search
#26Pretty cool feature. The unstated downside is that any personalization settings like dark mode, translation, and lens settings are still seemingly tied to account login.
It is clearly stated in the blog post :)
We even considered variations of having some settings preserved in local storage and impact of that on anonymity. Ultimately decided that was not worth it.
Check the FAQ section (towards the end) for full details and analysis:
Re: Privacy Pass Authentication for Kagi Search
#27The post hints at this, but having a shop where one can buy a privacy pass without an account makes sense. Should support some crypto currency (probably monero), and something like GNU Taler if that technology ever becomes usable.
Kagi accepts bitcoins but Vlad (the founder) mentioned on their forum that so few people use this option that it does not make sense to work on accepting Monero.
At the same time, privacy pass is a very foreign concept to me. If they are transferable between devices, one could generate a couple and resell them over some other medium (even in person).
Re: Privacy Pass Authentication for Kagi Search
#28I wish this extension would integrate better with the browser by automatically understanding the context. That is, if I'm in a "regular" mode it'll use my session, but if I'm in a "private browsing" mode (`browser.extension.inIncognitoContext`) it'll use Privacy Pass to authenticate me, without me having to explicitly do anything about it.
(I don't use Orion, as there's no GNU/Linux version.)
Re: Privacy Pass Authentication for Kagi Search
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's one of the the technical limitations behind gating it to unlimited accounts for now.
They could embed the subscription level into the blind signature.
Re: Privacy Pass Authentication for Kagi Search
#30The post hints at this, but having a shop where one can buy a privacy pass without an account makes sense. Should support some crypto currency (probably monero), and something like GNU Taler if that technology ever becomes usable.
Kagi accepts bitcoins but Vlad (the founder) mentioned on their forum that so few people use this option that it does not make sense to work on accepting Monero.