The Anthropic Economic Index • Hacker News Board

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Post by SpicyLemonZest » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 3:05 PM UTC

brap wrote: post #13

Seems like Anthropic has too much money on their hands and are looking for ways to spend it. It’s surprising to see lean AI startups accumulate fat so quickly. Usually this sort of wheel spinning is reserved for large corporations. And it’s not just them. To me this trend screams “valuations are too high”, and maybe hints at “progress might start to stagnate soon”.

I don't see it. This is just an analysis of how Anthropic customers are using the product and what investment areas seem most promising in the future - why wouldn't they want that?

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Post by chairhairair » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 3:05 PM UTC

suddenlybananas wrote: post #9

To what degree can you really trust these data? They obviously have a financial interest in playing with the numbers.

I would say it is trust worthy because if it were found to be gamed then Anthropic’s reputation would crater.

But, we found out that OpenAI is/was gaming benchmarks (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42761648) and that seems to be forgotten history now - so I don’t know.

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Post by vonneumannstan » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 3:05 PM UTC

Its a public benefit research company. Expecting it to behave like a normal Corporation is missing the point...

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Post by acomms » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 3:06 PM UTC

ActionHank wrote: post #15

gmaster1440 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the entire premise of this economic index is that they're showing you actual usage and insights from millions of anonymized claude conversations.

As PR

Is there a way to do it as not PR?

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Post by rafaelmn » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 3:08 PM UTC

Feels like a page of graphs where Anthropic team discovers that Claude is the best coding model and is used mostly by devs. And they have no penetration in general population compared to OpenAI

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Post by AnEro » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 3:08 PM UTC

Everyone in the comments seem to not like the article or see it as a waste of time. I just don't think we are the audience they wanted for this, I think they want to show the average business owner the realistic potential and public (journalists that will distill this later) they are aware of the impacts and what to expect.

I don't read it as fear AI, I read change is happening because of AI.

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Post by ajmurmann » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 3:13 PM UTC

AnEro wrote: post #26

Everyone in the comments seem to not like the article or see it as a waste of time. I just don't think we are the audience they wanted for this, I think they want to show the average business owner the realistic potential and public (journalists that will distill this later) they are aware of the impacts and what to expect. I don't read it as fear AI, I read change is happening because of AI.

They also call out how it's more used for augmentation rather than full automation which will address some concerns the public has.

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Post by keybored » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 3:13 PM UTC

Independent of whatever this org does, it makes perfect sense for economists to start to track when wage labor can be gotten rid of (in line with the AI Hype).

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Post by keybored » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 3:15 PM UTC

rvz wrote: post #6

AI companies: But don't worry, AI chatbots will create a UBI utopia where we will not do any work and we will have a future that will give us more time back and would never have to pay for work or food again! /s Here's the reality: You are getting displaced. Companies like Anthropic and OpenAI screaming about AGI are repeatedly lying to you as they raise more money while Meta (who are laying off staff today), Salesfo…

It’s time to take up socialism, folks.

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Post by ajmurmann » Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 3:18 PM UTC

Awesome that there are releasing this paper and the associated data. I hope they'll do this regularly, so that changes can be tracked.

One thing I hope they'll correct going forward is inclusion of API usage. Anecdotally, I only use Anthropic models via Cursor. So none of that usage shows up in here. I'd expect that specialized tools/interfaces like Cursor will grow and thus more usage will shift to API. It would be a shame to miss out on that in the data set.