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Thomas Aquinas' skull reveals appearance and cause of death

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Re: Thomas Aquinas' skull reveals appearance and cause of death

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I wonder what the licensing related to the image reconstruction is. Like, am I able to use it for the cover of a biography of his I publish?

It’s a creative work, so in most jurisdictions it’d be subject to copyright and unusable without licensing or the creator explicitly using a license like CC0 that allows free onward reproduction and reworking.

Re: Thomas Aquinas' skull reveals appearance and cause of death

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Hypothesised cranial haematoma after accident with tree, died aged 48. Reconstruction aligns with paintings, but it wasn't clear if the reconstruction model was informed by the paintings so somewhat meaningless they agree. Also the diagnosis isn't informed by the craniometry from what I can read: it's a reconstruction and an unconnected diagnosis from reports of his death. Amusingly a website which had (nc)register.c…

What’s amusing about two different sites being named ’Register’? It is a relatively common newspaper name suffix like ‘Times’ or ‘Post.’ Or is there something else I’m missing?

> being named ’Register’? It is a relatively common newspaper name

Incidentally: The Times (The "Times of London", first with that name form), debuted on 1 January 1785, with the name The Daily Universal Register.

Even "interchangable", you may (rhetorically) say.

Re: Thomas Aquinas' skull reveals appearance and cause of death

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my understanding facial reconstruction from skulls is a well-defined process in forensics, so it's likely that they used standard methods. They mentioned getting colors (i.e. skin/hair tone) from painting.

I'd love to see facial reconstruction of people of whom we have pictures and video. Since what I've heard of facial reconstruction is that there is a lot "art" in it.

I can tell you that, having seen some before, injured, and transplanted photos of facial transplant patients, their faces rapidly look much like they used to, regardless of the original person their face was transplanted from.

Bone structure is, as far as I can tell as a layperson, the major determinant of how people look. I found it quite surprising as I thought it would be the other way around.

The only obvious change was hair and skin color, essentially.

Re: Thomas Aquinas' skull reveals appearance and cause of death

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> “Now, it could be that on the whole we’re a lot larger now than even overweight medievals were, or that St. Thomas was never the portly friar described by his legend,” Father Aquinas quipped, adding, “Regardless, the stories of St. Thomas’ size are probably exaggerated.”

According to Martin Luther (who may have had an interest in discrediting him), Thomas Aquinas was able to devour an entire goose, and a piece of his dining table had to be cut out to accommodate his immense body [0]

[0] https://books.google.de/books?newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&hl=de&...

Re: Thomas Aquinas' skull reveals appearance and cause of death

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So, they discarded the form of the face coming from iconography BUT used the colors like hair and skin. This is SO catholic (well, or religious in general).

Aquinas was born in central Italy during the High Middle Ages. What hair and skin colour do you think he had?

Who knows? He might have been blonde-haired for all we know, after all the Duchy of Spoleto set up by the Lombards was also located in Central Italy. You can get an idea of that past Lombard presence from this map [1]: " Percentage of Blond Hair in the Italian regions" (notice the green blob East of Naples), which, granted, it may not be 100% scientific but I reckon that it is at least based on some real data.

Later edit: Apparently that map is based on this mid-19th century data sample: Percentages of blond hair in the Italian regions (including Corsica). Data collected by Ridolfo Livi on 1859-1863 lever classes ( "Renato Biasutti - Races and peoples of the Earth - UTET, 1941")

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/62yyuz/percentage_...

Re: Thomas Aquinas' skull reveals appearance and cause of death

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So, they discarded the form of the face coming from iconography BUT used the colors like hair and skin. This is SO catholic (well, or religious in general).

Aquinas was born in central Italy during the High Middle Ages. What hair and skin colour do you think he had?

It was an metaphor for the typical cherry picking that religions do.

Edit: no, it wasn't a hyperbole , it was a metaphor

Re: Thomas Aquinas' skull reveals appearance and cause of death

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post #15

So, they discarded the form of the face coming from iconography BUT used the colors like hair and skin. This is SO catholic (well, or religious in general).

Aquinas was born in central Italy during the High Middle Ages. What hair and skin colour do you think he had?

He was born nearish to Naples in the Kingdom of Sicily, a kingdom created by the Normans. Really hard to guess.

Re: Thomas Aquinas' skull reveals appearance and cause of death

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> “Now, it could be that on the whole we’re a lot larger now than even overweight medievals were, or that St. Thomas was never the portly friar described by his legend,” Father Aquinas quipped, adding, “Regardless, the stories of St. Thomas’ size are probably exaggerated.” According to Martin Luther (who may have had an interest in discrediting him), Thomas Aquinas was able to devour an entire goose, and a piece of h…

Also, Luther was born ~250 years after Thomas Aquinas, so this could have already become legend.
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