Docker hub reported an incident[1] at the same time. Are they running on R2? [1] https://www.dockerstatus.com/pages/incident/533c6539221ae15e...
looks like they do for free users.
Cloudflare R2 Global Outage
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Re: Cloudflare R2 Global Outage
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On our side, we first saw the Cloudflare outage. Then, Docker Hub started failing, followed by GitHub API errors. It's amazing how much of the internet runs / depends on Cloudflare these days. Thank you for keeping the lights on. :)
> It's amazing [...] "Shocking" is the word you're looking for. Keeping the lights on would be easier if we wouldn't have an internet resting on a few shoulders.
Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few. You can make it reliant on nobody so I have to trust nobody, or you can put it in the hands of a trusted few who I can research and understand. Michelle, Matthew and John GC have done such a good job of building trust we've rewarded them to the tune of billions of dollars. I understand your perspective, I just wanted to share there are other people on the other-side who don't find it shocking and appreciate how it is.
Re: Cloudflare R2 Global Outage
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's amazing [...] "Shocking" is the word you're looking for. Keeping the lights on would be easier if we wouldn't have an internet resting on a few shoulders.
Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few. You can make it reliant on nobody so I have to trust nobody, or you can put it in the hands of a trusted few who I can research and understand. Michelle, Matthew and John GC have done such a good job of building trust we've rewarded them to the tune of billions of dollars. I understand your perspective, I just wanted to share there are other peo…
"Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few."
Holy shit no. This is the sort of thing that gets kooky politicians randomly turning off the flouride in a city's water supply: https://alaskapublic.org/news/2021-12-15/anchorage-mayor-tur...
Things aren't as simple as you seem to think they are.
Re: Cloudflare R2 Global Outage
#24why is the date `Oct 17, 2024 - 20:26 UTC`?
Re: Cloudflare R2 Global Outage
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Thanks, when will we get a post-mortem?
I hate those clients. :D
Speaking as someone who’s written a lot of post-mortems, they’re a really useful exercise, and demanding clients are the only reason they actually happen. If you don’t get any lessons out of your post-mortem process, you’re missing a huge opportunity to improve your services.
Re: Cloudflare R2 Global Outage
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> It's amazing [...] "Shocking" is the word you're looking for. Keeping the lights on would be easier if we wouldn't have an internet resting on a few shoulders.
Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few. You can make it reliant on nobody so I have to trust nobody, or you can put it in the hands of a trusted few who I can research and understand. Michelle, Matthew and John GC have done such a good job of building trust we've rewarded them to the tune of billions of dollars. I understand your perspective, I just wanted to share there are other peo…
> Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few.
Yeah, why even have ASNs, BGP and distributed network infrastructure when we could just have GooFlareZon host it all, with basically no drawbacks?
There is many good reasons why the internet is distributed and why that was the architecture that allowed it to go global. Going back from that would do no one any good except the ones who ends up the new owners.
Re: Cloudflare R2 Global Outage
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Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few. You can make it reliant on nobody so I have to trust nobody, or you can put it in the hands of a trusted few who I can research and understand. Michelle, Matthew and John GC have done such a good job of building trust we've rewarded them to the tune of billions of dollars. I understand your perspective, I just wanted to share there are other peo…
> Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few. Yeah, why even have ASNs, BGP and distributed network infrastructure when we could just have GooFlareZon host it all, with basically no drawbacks? There is many good reasons why the internet is distributed and why that was the architecture that allowed it to go global. Going back from that would do no one any good except the ones who ends up t…
The internet is distributed control, yes. BOFH operating tables, as I said for me it's either no humans or humans I can audit. The DNSSEC Root KSK Ceremony is neat.
Re: Cloudflare R2 Global Outage
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Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few. You can make it reliant on nobody so I have to trust nobody, or you can put it in the hands of a trusted few who I can research and understand. Michelle, Matthew and John GC have done such a good job of building trust we've rewarded them to the tune of billions of dollars. I understand your perspective, I just wanted to share there are other peo…
"Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few." Holy shit no. This is the sort of thing that gets kooky politicians randomly turning off the flouride in a city's water supply: https://alaskapublic.org/news/2021-12-15/anchorage-mayor-tur... Things aren't as simple as you seem to think they are.
I take your point and it's well presented. We could easily get into neo-liberalism here but It's too early on a Thursday morning for that so I'll just accept it's more nuanced and I hope you'll look for the nuance on my side also. :)
Re: Cloudflare R2 Global Outage
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> It's amazing [...] "Shocking" is the word you're looking for. Keeping the lights on would be easier if we wouldn't have an internet resting on a few shoulders.
Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few. You can make it reliant on nobody so I have to trust nobody, or you can put it in the hands of a trusted few who I can research and understand. Michelle, Matthew and John GC have done such a good job of building trust we've rewarded them to the tune of billions of dollars. I understand your perspective, I just wanted to share there are other peo…
> Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few.
Well that's a non-sequitur.
Re: Cloudflare R2 Global Outage
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> It's amazing [...] "Shocking" is the word you're looking for. Keeping the lights on would be easier if we wouldn't have an internet resting on a few shoulders.
Critical infrastructure is critical so it belongs in the hands of a few. You can make it reliant on nobody so I have to trust nobody, or you can put it in the hands of a trusted few who I can research and understand. Michelle, Matthew and John GC have done such a good job of building trust we've rewarded them to the tune of billions of dollars. I understand your perspective, I just wanted to share there are other peo…
Counterargument: centralization leads to all critical infrastructure failing at once, which is far worse than single pieces of infrastructure experiencing intermittent failures at different uncorrelated points in time.