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Re: Fair Pricing

#22
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they refused to let me cancel my contract early without me showing them my new lease They problem is the cancellation process, not "they shouldn't charge me if I'm not using it".

Yes, but that problem would've been moot if they were prohibited from charging me for months I didn't use it (i.e. every month after the one wherein I attempted to cancel).

> that problem would've been moot if they were prohibited from charging me for months I didn't use it

No, the problem would be moot if the cancellation process was as easy as the sign up process. And I think the US finally got that law

Re: Fair Pricing

#24

Kagi is awesome, but the thought of having a limit led me to use it less and less and I eventually unsubscribed.

This is how I think about unlimited data plans haha. I think a rate limit is easier to stomach (e.g., X requests per hour where they bank up to one hour so you can burst up to 2X for especially crazy hours or something).

Re: Fair Pricing

#25
Just recently i was actually thinking about this pricing approach for netflix, apple arcade or whatever else. Basically i use it so rarely that i could just subscribe when i want to watch anything, and unsubscribe immediately. This will enable subscription till end of billing period (one month). Then when i want o watch anything again then i will repeat again. And now kagi has implemented exactly this but automated from their own side. Im subscribing just to vote with my wallet.

Hopes that netflix or any other provider will implement this are small though. Because it's free money when someone pays for service and does not use it.

Re: Fair Pricing

#26
post #9
post #2

Kudos for adopting a user friendly billing policy. I would love to see the FTC mandate a policy that prohibits automatic renewal billing if the service hasn’t been used for some time.

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The problem is that there are still huge amounts of services with awful dark patterns out there. There’s an instagram gym clothing brand called Fabletics which is £55/month for their vip tier. They auto subscribe you with a purchase (and when I say buried in the fine print, I really do mean _buried_ in the fine print). To cancel, you have to do it between the 1st and the 4th of the month, and it’s a multi page form where every page is a confirmation that is designed to look like you have unsubscribed . When services are still doing this there needs to be some rules.

Re: Fair Pricing

#27
No good. Not fair.

I put money into the account, you bill me per search - pre-paid usage based billing is the only way this can ever be "fair".

Re: Fair Pricing

#28

Kagi is awesome, but the thought of having a limit led me to use it less and less and I eventually unsubscribed.

I noticed if I need something hard to find I have to do a dozen+ different queries (and sometimes not find anything because it doesn't exist). Both with Kagi and Google the result is the same but with Kagi I also rack up a bunch per one attempt to find something. And if I need something easy to find but lazy both Google and Kagi reliably show the first correct result.

So it's either unlimited or nothing. But since I know Google's search operators well I don't have trouble finding things if they exist so $10 per month is hard to justify. Plus, you're anonymous with Google but you're not anonymous with Kagi since you pay them.

But Kagi can be good for tech illiterate relative you want to shield from sus sites.

Re: Fair Pricing

#29
post #7

That's great, but I can't even imagine "forgetting" to use Kagi. Completely indispensable.

It's also hard to forget once you've set it as your default browser. So I imagine that it'll mostly benefit people on the limited (300 search/month) tier, where you might want to ration your searches

Re: Fair Pricing

#30
post #27

No good. Not fair. I put money into the account, you bill me per search - pre-paid usage based billing is the only way this can ever be "fair".

Kagi used to have limits on all plans, and I feel like associating cost to typos is a bad experience that you'd never have on ads-supported engines. Even now on starter plan (300/month) a mistyped query would cost you $0.0166 each.

Now I use the unlimited plan and so I search first, spellcheck later. Or sometimes it corrects it for me.

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