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How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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simonbarker87 wrote: post #8
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #4

AI is best stated as a tool to permit wealth to access skill without skill being permitted to access wealth. I've been called a Luddite so many times on this website asking basic questions of how in a world where your labor is required in order for you to earn a living these entire reams of people are meant to continue living, and nobody has an answer.

I also wonder what everyone is supposed to do if skills are simply AI’d in to uselessness. The usual answer is something about how rich people want to rule the world and not pay for labour … but then that world will become pretty unpleasant for them to live in so that doesn’t track to me.

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Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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Post by spinach »

qoez wrote: post #7

AI seems like a scapegoat here when I think the real answer is simply that it was a tired genre that died out like many music fads over the years. (Everyone could learn how to make these with a 10 minute youtube tutorial which flooded the market, independent of AI.)

Lofi music is a really popular genre to listen to as background music, I wouldn't say it's a tired genre. Perhaps for creators it is, but for listeners it's not.

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Post by mvdtnz »

izacus wrote: post #5
josefritzishere wrote: post #3

Spotify is ardently anti-consumer and anti-artist. Their business model extracts revenue by siphoning off artist royalties through label rev-share and then compounds the issue by restricting royalty payouts. Further siphoning off revenue by loading the playlist with AI-trash is not even their worst offense. They're a company begging for an artist boycott.

Yeah, can't wait to go back to Sony installing rootkits on my playback device to make sure we don't pirate their CDs.

A DRM scheme from 20 years ago is not the one and only alternative to Spotify.

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Post by fph »

Is there a website that let me auto-queue music based on what I have listened to in the past, and is not a for-profit algorithm like Youtube and Spotify?

With Youtube, I feel like I am the product, and they can't wait to put "sponsored" songs into my feed.

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Post by pinkmuffinere »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #4

AI is best stated as a tool to permit wealth to access skill without skill being permitted to access wealth. I've been called a Luddite so many times on this website asking basic questions of how in a world where your labor is required in order for you to earn a living these entire reams of people are meant to continue living, and nobody has an answer.

I think you’re arguing against continued development of AI? (Apologies if I’ve misunderstood)

I won’t use the word “Luddite”, but your argument could be applied word-for-word to automatic looms:

“[The automatic loom] is best stated as a tool to permit wealth to access skill without skill being permitted to access wealth… how in a world where your labor is required in order for you to earn a living these entire reams of people are meant to continue living…“

Historically, automatic looms were a net benefit to society. I think this indicates that your argument against development of AI is insufficient.

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Post by briantakita »

Lofi Girl still has an active audience. >100k for each video. GameChops has a channel as well with >5k & The Musician's story adds to the vibe. If someone can relate to the creator, it helps to create more connection with the audience than a pure algorithm. The human curated/generated animations seem more coherent...even if it's on a loop.

I like some of the new AI animations for being novel...mostly futuristic. Though this will soon become common & something new will show up.

Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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Post by ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 »

qoez wrote: post #7

AI seems like a scapegoat here when I think the real answer is simply that it was a tired genre that died out like many music fads over the years. (Everyone could learn how to make these with a 10 minute youtube tutorial which flooded the market, independent of AI.)

> Everyone could learn how to make these with a 10 minute youtube tutorial which flooded the market

That is a strange way to view music to me.

Just because people can make music doesn't mean others will enjoy it. It isn't really obvious to me that overwhelming the supply would decrease demand. I mean, look at any extreme pop genre.

One would assume that there are more complicated economics at play.

Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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Post by lawgimenez »

dvngnt_ wrote: post #11

Spotify and other streaming sites also killed mixtapes of rappers on other people's beats. The AI generated stuff will probably be good for its intended purpose white noise with a beat to help you study but its unlikely you'll find you're next favorite artist

Datpiff mixtape era was one of the best. It is where I discovered Kendrick Lamar before his fame today.
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