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NASA Told to to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites

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Re: NASA Told to to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites

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Post by briandear »

subjectsigma wrote: post #5
spamizbad wrote: post #2

Glad to know my tax dollars are getting spent on the new flavor of virtue signaling. Insane this was some super high priority.

I’m someone who was, uh, skeptical of the DEI stuff. One of my biggest complaints was that it seemed to be much ado about nothing. Re-writing laws and policies to fill them with fluff. This is EXACTLY the same thing, it is 100% virtue signaling and we are burning so much time, money, and goodwill on fucking bullshit nonsense Meanwhile the economy is in shambles, the executive branch is systematically destroying the r…

So if DEI language was bad, then correcting it should be a good idea.

Re: NASA Told to to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites

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Post by elsonrodriguez »

subjectsigma wrote: post #5
spamizbad wrote: post #2

Glad to know my tax dollars are getting spent on the new flavor of virtue signaling. Insane this was some super high priority.

I’m someone who was, uh, skeptical of the DEI stuff. One of my biggest complaints was that it seemed to be much ado about nothing. Re-writing laws and policies to fill them with fluff. This is EXACTLY the same thing, it is 100% virtue signaling and we are burning so much time, money, and goodwill on fucking bullshit nonsense Meanwhile the economy is in shambles, the executive branch is systematically destroying the r…

It isn't quite the same thing. There is a difference between trying to empower historically marginalized groups, and trying to re-subjugate historically marginalized groups.

Improving the opportunities available to people tends to improve economic productivity, so it's hard to argue it is a total waste of money.

On the other hand, removing mentions or attempts to improve inclusion of these groups in the face of rising racism and sexism has no real upside unless you're a racist or misogynist. Purges of this sort don't have any real economic motivations, it's pure ideology.

One was more of an investment, the other is more destruction.

Of course while the DEI scrubbing is dangerous to just some people, the scrubbing of climate-related language is just genocidal.

Re: NASA Told to to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites

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Post by everybodyknows »

briandear wrote: post #10
nessbot wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never, and I mean NEVER, want to hear someone talk about "cancel culture" of the left ever again.

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"Accessibility" is on the list. Isn't the physical reality of needing a wheelchair ramp or scaleable web pages highly "relevant"?

Re: NASA Told to to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites

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Post by rich_sasha »

briandear wrote: post #18
spamizbad wrote: post #2

Glad to know my tax dollars are getting spent on the new flavor of virtue signaling. Insane this was some super high priority.

Do you know how much the FAA spent renaming “cockpit” and changing Notice to Airmen to Notice to Air Missions in all FAA publications? In the midst of a profound controller shortage, the FAA spent millions on changing words. If people want to criticize the current changes as wasting money, then it’s intellectually dishonest not to call out other agencies such as the FAA for their nonsense.

What was "cockpit" renamed to?

Re: NASA Told to to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

rich_sasha wrote: post #24
briandear wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know how much the FAA spent renaming “cockpit” and changing Notice to Airmen to Notice to Air Missions in all FAA publications? In the midst of a profound controller shortage, the FAA spent millions on changing words. If people want to criticize the current changes as wasting money, then it’s intellectually dishonest not to call out other agencies such as the FAA for their nonsense.

What was "cockpit" renamed to?

Flight deck.

Also it was just a recommendation as far as my searching can find, for example https://www.nationalreview.com/news/faa-panel-recommends-cha...

This summary of a 2024 FAA re-authorization has the word 'cockpit' 6 times, so I'm dubious that much was done with that recommendation.

Re: NASA Told to to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites

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Post by feoren »

briandear wrote: post #18
spamizbad wrote: post #2

Glad to know my tax dollars are getting spent on the new flavor of virtue signaling. Insane this was some super high priority.

Do you know how much the FAA spent renaming “cockpit” and changing Notice to Airmen to Notice to Air Missions in all FAA publications? In the midst of a profound controller shortage, the FAA spent millions on changing words. If people want to criticize the current changes as wasting money, then it’s intellectually dishonest not to call out other agencies such as the FAA for their nonsense.

> Do you know how much the FAA spent renaming “cockpit” and changing Notice to Airmen to Notice to Air Missions in all FAA publications?

Do you? Because I'm guessing it was virtually nothing. That does not sound like a particularly costly activity.

> If people want to criticize the current changes as wasting money, then it’s intellectually dishonest not to call out other agencies

This is the definition of whataboutism. Also, "wasting money" is not near the top of my list of the problems with government agencies being told they're not allowed to mention women.

Re: NASA Told to to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites

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Post by TehCorwiz »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #26
rich_sasha wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was "cockpit" renamed to?

Flight deck. Also it was just a recommendation as far as my searching can find, for example https://www.nationalreview.com/news/faa-panel-recommends-cha... This summary of a 2024 FAA re-authorization has the word 'cockpit' 6 times, so I'm dubious that much was done with that recommendation.

That's a highly biased source. I recommend the WaPo article it links to or even the report itself I've linked below. The relevant part is on pages 108 through 135, so ~27 pages out of 217, most of which is title cards, references, and graphs. The document itself uses "cockpit" repeatedly throughout, so these suggestions weren't proactively adopted.

EDIT: Fixed link,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/faa-s-drone-advisory-...

Re: NASA Told to to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites

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Post by spacemadness »

nessbot wrote: post #3
spamizbad wrote: post #2

Glad to know my tax dollars are getting spent on the new flavor of virtue signaling. Insane this was some super high priority.

I never, and I mean NEVER, want to hear someone talk about "cancel culture" of the left ever again.

Didn’t Elon just cancel r/whitepeopletwitter?
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