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Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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Post by parthianshotgun »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #18

Tiananmen Square has become a litmus test for Chinese censorship, but in a way, it's revealing. The assumption is that access to this information could influence Chinese public opinion — that if people knew more, something might change. At the very least, there's a belief in that possibility. Meanwhile, I can ask ChatGPT, "Tell me about the MOVE bombing of 1985," and get a detailed answer, yet nothing changes. Here i…

This is an interesting observation. However, it speaks more to the overall education level of the Chinese citizenry

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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Post by test6554 »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #18

Tiananmen Square has become a litmus test for Chinese censorship, but in a way, it's revealing. The assumption is that access to this information could influence Chinese public opinion — that if people knew more, something might change. At the very least, there's a belief in that possibility. Meanwhile, I can ask ChatGPT, "Tell me about the MOVE bombing of 1985," and get a detailed answer, yet nothing changes. Here i…

The harder a person or country tries to avoid absolutely any embarrassment, the more fun it becomes to embarrass them a little bit.

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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Post by akdev1l »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #18

Tiananmen Square has become a litmus test for Chinese censorship, but in a way, it's revealing. The assumption is that access to this information could influence Chinese public opinion — that if people knew more, something might change. At the very least, there's a belief in that possibility. Meanwhile, I can ask ChatGPT, "Tell me about the MOVE bombing of 1985," and get a detailed answer, yet nothing changes. Here i…

I don’t know about comparing what was apparently an armed standoff were only Six adults and five children were killed in the attack - vs Tiananmen Square where the Chinese send their own soldiers to kill peaceful protesters and flush them down the drains as human goo.

The matter of fact is that the US hasn’t yet committed such horrific acts to such a large scale as the CCP did in Tiananmen Square. (Not that I agree with whatever they did in that bombing but it seems truly incomparable)

Reference from wiki:

> the bombing and destruction of residential homes in the Cobbs Creek neighborhood of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States, by the Philadelphia Police Department during an armed standoff with MOVE, a black liberation organization.

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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Post by lbotos »

parthianshotgun wrote: post #21
kelseyfrog wrote: post #18

Tiananmen Square has become a litmus test for Chinese censorship, but in a way, it's revealing. The assumption is that access to this information could influence Chinese public opinion — that if people knew more, something might change. At the very least, there's a belief in that possibility. Meanwhile, I can ask ChatGPT, "Tell me about the MOVE bombing of 1985," and get a detailed answer, yet nothing changes. Here i…

This is an interesting observation. However, it speaks more to the overall education level of the Chinese citizenry

Does it? Help me understand your point. I think you are saying "censorship means they don't even know?"

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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Post by dylan604 »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #18

Tiananmen Square has become a litmus test for Chinese censorship, but in a way, it's revealing. The assumption is that access to this information could influence Chinese public opinion — that if people knew more, something might change. At the very least, there's a belief in that possibility. Meanwhile, I can ask ChatGPT, "Tell me about the MOVE bombing of 1985," and get a detailed answer, yet nothing changes. Here i…

As an American, I just asked DDG to "Tell me about the MOVE bombing of 1985,"

I am willing to admit, I was absolutely unaware of this. Is this because of censorship or because of other factors? It's clearly no censored, but quite possibly de-prioritized in coverage. I can say in 1985 I was not well tuned into local let alone national news coverage. I am surprised that in all of the police wrongdoing coverage we have now that this is the first I'm reading about it.

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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Post by dylan604 »

noman-land wrote: post #7
lxe wrote: post #4

You can also intercept the xhr response which would still stop generation, but the UI won't update, revelaing the thoughts that lead to the content filter: const filter = t => t?.split('\n').filter(l => !l.includes('content_filter')).join('\n'); ['response', 'responseText'].forEach(prop => { const orig = Object.getOwnPropertyDescriptor(XMLHttpRequest.prototype, prop); Object.defineProperty(XMLHttpRequest.prototype, p…

This is why javascript is so fun.

It's precisely why I'm a such an advocate of server side everything. JS is fun to update the DOM (which is what it was designed for), but manipulating data client side in JS is absolutely bat shit crazy.

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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Post by zamadatix »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #18

Tiananmen Square has become a litmus test for Chinese censorship, but in a way, it's revealing. The assumption is that access to this information could influence Chinese public opinion — that if people knew more, something might change. At the very least, there's a belief in that possibility. Meanwhile, I can ask ChatGPT, "Tell me about the MOVE bombing of 1985," and get a detailed answer, yet nothing changes. Here i…

Setting the specifics around each event aside, as that's not only its own rathole but also a never ending stream of "what about"s for other events as well, I doubt you're ever going to come up with an ideology where all things are correctly handled all of the time yet that doesn't automatically imply all of those are hopeless.

Anti-censorship is more a bet that when people can freely know there is more hope things can change for the better. It's not a bet all things will always change for the better. I do put a lot more hope in that than anybody from anywhere saying those who can't even openly discuss it are in better chances.

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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Post by tialaramex »

test6554 wrote: post #22
kelseyfrog wrote: post #18

Tiananmen Square has become a litmus test for Chinese censorship, but in a way, it's revealing. The assumption is that access to this information could influence Chinese public opinion — that if people knew more, something might change. At the very least, there's a belief in that possibility. Meanwhile, I can ask ChatGPT, "Tell me about the MOVE bombing of 1985," and get a detailed answer, yet nothing changes. Here i…

The harder a person or country tries to avoid absolutely any embarrassment, the more fun it becomes to embarrass them a little bit.

Right, most of the stuff I'd seen was trying to get DeepSeek to explain the Winnie The Pooh memes, which is a problem because Winnie The Pooh is Xi, that's what the memes are about and he doesn't like that at all.

Trump hates the fact he's called the orange buffoon. On a Fox show or in front of fans he can pretend he believes nobody says that, nobody thinks he's an idiot, they're all huge fans because America is so strong now, but in fact he's a laughing stock and he knows it.

A sign of American hopelessness would be the famous Onion articles "No Way To Prevent This". There are a bunch of these "Everybody else knows how to do it" issues but gun control is hilarious because even average Americans know how to do it but they won't anyway. That is helplessness.

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