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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by lolinder » Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 1:05 AM UTC

PhoenixReborn wrote: post #10

levocardia wrote: post #8

How can this possibly be America's largest TB outbreak in history? TB was killing thousands of people per year in America in the 1800s.

The crucial word in the headline is "recorded". I doubt that record-keeping in the 1800s was as comprehensive as it is today. Additionally, from the article: > the CDC started monitoring TB in the US in the 1950s.

Eh, "recorded history" is totally the wrong phrase.

When we say "recorded history" we don't mean "the window of time in which we have detailed records up to our modern standards", we specifically mean "the window of time in which we have records of any sort", contrasted with "prehistory".

The phrase they were looking for is "largest on record" or even better "largest since 195X".

> For broader world history, recorded history begins with the accounts of the ancient world around the 4th millennium BCE, and it coincides with the invention of writing.

EDIT: Downvote away, but I'd be interested to hear from someone who believes that "recorded history" is not incorrect and confusing usage here, with an explanation rather than a drive by vote.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recorded_history

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by Havoc » Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 1:05 AM UTC

Is the CDC still a thing or did an executive order defund them too?

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by scripturial » Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 1:06 AM UTC

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #16

Weird. Where did it come from? It’s basically unheard of in the US.

It’s still relatively common in some other countries. As usual, it’ll be connected to travel.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by admissionsguy » Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 1:06 AM UTC

doodlebugging wrote: post #20

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #16

Weird. Where did it come from? It’s basically unheard of in the US.

Here is an early article about the outbreak. [0] [0] https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2023/09/05/... Appears that it originated within a family group involving 6 kids and 7 adults.

It came from abroad.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by ceejayoz » Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 1:06 AM UTC

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #16

Weird. Where did it come from? It’s basically unheard of in the US.

We have roughly 10k cases a year. https://www.cdc.gov/tb-surveillance-report-2023/summary/nati...

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by intermerda » Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 1:07 AM UTC

avs733 wrote: post #6

llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by NotYourLawyer » Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 1:09 AM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #25

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #16

Weird. Where did it come from? It’s basically unheard of in the US.

We have roughly 10k cases a year. https://www.cdc.gov/tb-surveillance-report-2023/summary/nati...

Oh wow, That’s still not much, but I was under the impression it was a lot less common than that.

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Post by suraci » Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 1:09 AM UTC

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #16

Weird. Where did it come from? It’s basically unheard of in the US.

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by doodlebugging » Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 1:09 AM UTC

admissionsguy wrote: post #24

doodlebugging wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is an early article about the outbreak. [0] [0] https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2023/09/05/... Appears that it originated within a family group involving 6 kids and 7 adults.

It came from abroad.

Yes. The question is how did it balloon so quickly if these people were identified an receiving treatment? Is this a breakdown in the case monitoring among Kansas City medical community or something else?

The original cases were in low income people who had been born outside the US but whose children were born in the US according to the paper.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by throw678937 » Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 1:10 AM UTC

llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

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