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Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's tracked as debris and not an asteroid. It was deleted because it's already tracked

So the takeaway I get is that these two databases should be cross linked so this doesn’t happen again. Maybe there’s a community of software developers who could help.

If only there were some sort of article explaining the need for transparency between organizations regarding these things.

Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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I'm not sure I buy into the sensationalism behind this story. We're tracking billions[0] of asteroids in interplanetary space, and you say that it's a data-processing hazard that the half-dozen or so deep-space anthropogenic objects aren't submitted to a mandatory international database for de-confliction? That doesn't pass the smell test. [0] https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/01/01/1108643/vera-c-r...

> I'm not sure I buy into the sensationalism behind this story It does seem odd there is an entire article about a single mislabeled-and-then-caught object in a large database that probably has many mislabeled objects that have never been caught. The position of the object is well documented [1] [2]. It surprises me that there are not some very basic checks done on new objects against other databases. All that said,…

There’s not a lot of man made objects floating in deep space. DeltaV to get outside earths gravity well is just extremely high.

Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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Seems like an odd move to just delete it. Is it any less worthy of being tracked because it's man made? Wouldn't adding it to the database at least reduce the chance of the same mistake being made again by other astronomers? Isn't this, like other space junk in such orbits, effectively an "anthropogenic asteroid"? Why not just add them in with a special tag or naming convention to indicate that they're man-made?

> The Minor Planet Electronic Circulars contain information on unusual minor planets, routine data on comets and natural satellites, and occasional editorial announcements.

I assume it's being tracked elsewhere. But not here.

Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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> announced the discovery of an unusual asteroid, designated 2018 CN41

Can someone explain why in 2025 they discover an asteroid which gets designated as "2018" and then they delete it when it turns out that it was an object launched in space precisely in 2018?

Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the takeaway I get is that these two databases should be cross linked so this doesn’t happen again. Maybe there’s a community of software developers who could help.

If only there were some sort of article explaining the need for transparency between organizations regarding these things.

That would be great. Instead, we got an article vaguely demanding "transparency" for "untracked" objects, when the motivating example for the article is an object that was actually very well tracked and was launched with millions of witnesses live on stream.

Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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post #13

Seems like an odd move to just delete it. Is it any less worthy of being tracked because it's man made? Wouldn't adding it to the database at least reduce the chance of the same mistake being made again by other astronomers? Isn't this, like other space junk in such orbits, effectively an "anthropogenic asteroid"? Why not just add them in with a special tag or naming convention to indicate that they're man-made?

It's being tracked, but not by the "Minor Planet Center".

Hopefully it still is being tracked by them, otherwise when someone reports it tomorrow they'll have no idea what it is and will need to go through this song and dance again.

It's just not being published on a certain curated list by the MPC.

Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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There is almost nothing in the article that is "rocket man bad." The article is "lack of global coordination about man made objects in deep space bad." Which seems kinda like a reasonable and slightly boring complaint except that it's funny in this case because it was a drifting car.

Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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> announced the discovery of an unusual asteroid, designated 2018 CN41 Can someone explain why in 2025 they discover an asteroid which gets designated as "2018" and then they delete it when it turns out that it was an object launched in space precisely in 2018?

https://www.iau.org/public/themes/naming/

It's initially given a temporary name prior to the now official name.

2018 CN41

Means it's the 41st object identified in the first half of February in 2018.

A is first half of jan. B is 2nd half. Etc.. then the iteration in that section

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