Legalyze.ai: Review Medical Records with AI • Hacker News Board

Re: Legalyze.ai: Review Medical Records with AI

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Post by chrisford » Sat, Jan 25, 2025, 3:28 AM UTC

tiahura wrote: post #14

the_sleaze_ wrote: post #6

Almost zero chance this technology doesn't break HIPAA law somehow. > our data is stored securely and encrypted on servers under Legalyze.ai's control. If you found out a law firm is sending your medical records to a third party without any prior BAA or consent....

Only “covered entities” and their “business associates” fall under HIPPA. Most firms don’t meet the definition.

This is correct. Also, when a law firm client goes under contract with a firm, they often sign HIPAA-compliant medical-release documentation.

Some software providers in the AI medical space are conservative here and have customers sign a BAA directly on signup.

Re: Legalyze.ai: Review Medical Records with AI

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Post by chrisford » Sat, Jan 25, 2025, 3:31 AM UTC

toasteros wrote: post #10

Good lord. Two areas we really do not want AI in its current form touching somehow put together in one convenient little package.

It's a productivity AI agent meant for workers who were already dealing with medical records and creating medical chronologies manually, primarily in the legal space.

Re: Legalyze.ai: Review Medical Records with AI

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Post by chrisford » Sat, Jan 25, 2025, 3:32 AM UTC

Yoric wrote: post #4

Do I understand correctly that this is an AI that will be used to sue or otherwise take law-related decisions? What can go wrong?

No, everything is human-monitored. There is a startup working on AI arbitration though - https://judgeai.space/

Re: Legalyze.ai: Review Medical Records with AI

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Post by chrisford » Sat, Jan 25, 2025, 3:33 AM UTC

threecheese wrote: post #3

Politely, stick it.

Why? We are just another AI agent trying to help humans automate tedious work.

Re: Legalyze.ai: Review Medical Records with AI

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Post by chrisford » Sat, Jan 25, 2025, 3:33 AM UTC

evergreen_usa wrote: post #9

Is this the same as https://olive.legal/ ?

Similar markets, yes.

Re: Legalyze.ai: Review Medical Records with AI

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Post by chrisford » Sat, Jan 25, 2025, 3:34 AM UTC

giantfrog wrote: post #5

Looks like an efficient way to lose a lawsuit.

It finds details that are hard for humans to see. It won't get fatigued when looking through thousands of records and stays consistent.

Re: Legalyze.ai: Review Medical Records with AI

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Post by chrisford » Sat, Jan 25, 2025, 3:35 AM UTC

tiahura wrote: post #15

What can this do that a quality prompt w/ ChatGPT or Claude can’t do?

ChatGPT or Claude can't review thousands of medical records at once.

Re: Legalyze.ai: Review Medical Records with AI

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Post by chrisford » Sat, Jan 25, 2025, 3:35 AM UTC

Cheer2171 wrote: post #11

Nope.

Why?

Re: Legalyze.ai: Review Medical Records with AI

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Post by ttyprintk » Sat, Jan 25, 2025, 11:14 AM UTC

getwiththeprog wrote: post #18

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #12

I remember working in the operating room space. I noticed some sites had cameras built into their lights. I asked if they wanted to be able to capture images timestamped to entries in the case record. Everyone was adamant they did not want that as it would open them up to too much subjective liability. We have a hard time capturing enough information to be useful and understand things. I didn't realize before now but…

And the companies that can afford to hire experienced humans keeps winning law-suits. Until the judiciary is automated.

These cases often bring in medical records experts when one side disputes the scope or completeness of their access. That’s where I’d expect AI to debut.

Re: Legalyze.ai: Review Medical Records with AI

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Post by ttyprintk » Sat, Jan 25, 2025, 11:16 AM UTC

the_sleaze_ wrote: post #6

Almost zero chance this technology doesn't break HIPAA law somehow. > our data is stored securely and encrypted on servers under Legalyze.ai's control. If you found out a law firm is sending your medical records to a third party without any prior BAA or consent....

Today, both sides already have some level of access to medical records; could be a judge’s decision.

And when it comes to medical records for people unrelated to the lawsuit, using de-identified cases is not a violation of HIPAA. The question is: can we use AI on those full cases and de-identify afterward? Is using AI on de-identified cases allowed (because the de-identification process can mess with chronology)?