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BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

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Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

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This ship might not be for peacefully exporting electric cars. China is making unmistakable preparations to invade Taiwan in the near future and RORO carrier vessels have clear military applications in such a scenario.

Consider this analysis of the invasion barges they’re preparing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Klkpk_hO4FQ

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

#22
post #10

Ten thousand EV batteries packed into a ship’s hull. What could go wrong?

It would be cool to pull charge off the batteries to power the ship.

It seems to already use some batteries, but not sure for what:

“the new ship includes BYD box-type battery packs and shaft-belt generators for the first time”

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

#23

This ship might not be for peacefully exporting electric cars. China is making unmistakable preparations to invade Taiwan in the near future and RORO carrier vessels have clear military applications in such a scenario. Consider this analysis of the invasion barges they’re preparing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Klkpk_hO4FQ

That is a very good observation and a really interesting video.

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

#25

This ship might not be for peacefully exporting electric cars. China is making unmistakable preparations to invade Taiwan in the near future and RORO carrier vessels have clear military applications in such a scenario. Consider this analysis of the invasion barges they’re preparing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Klkpk_hO4FQ

That is a very good observation and a really interesting video.

Yeah, I watched the video the other day and when I saw the phrase “world’s largest car carrier” I instantly thought of the photo of all of the Chinese tanks loaded onto a RORO. And this ship is even bigger? Hmmmmm…

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

#26

Ten thousand EV batteries packed into a ship’s hull. What could go wrong?

Realistically, what is the concern for EV batteries? They already make up a pretty substantial amount of market chair in the US, and yet I don’t hear stories about EV’s being more dangerous or more prone to fires or anything. The only time you ever really see an EV burning is one that was in an accident, and guess what, gas cars also blow up when they’re in an accident sometimes

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

#27

Vertically integrating. Not as subtle as I'd have expected, but still sensible.

That's pushing vertical integration to extremes. Is there any precedent to car carriers dedicated to one manufacturer? Wikipedia mentions a "Toyota Maru No. 10" which was NOT owned by Toyota - although I don't know if it was dedicated to them.

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

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GOOD Point by my wife. Could they double purpose these ships as ferries? Seems like the same basic concept.

It's not well advertised, but you can book voyages on many cargo ships. They just give you one of the crew cabins and pack some more food. Expect to be the only passenger.

There are some issues though. It's slow (slower than an ocean liner since ships are more efficient at low speeds). And it's a cargo vessel, so the cargo sets the schedule. If there's an issue with the cargo that delays the ship by three weeks, you journey is delayed by three weeks. There also just isn't much happening. You have a room, a mess hall, a crew of maybe half a dozen to a dozen people to talk to, a ship to walk around on, and not much else.

It's more of a "the journey is the destination" thing. Accordingly there are a couple youtube channels documenting such journeys

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

#29

Ten thousand EV batteries packed into a ship’s hull. What could go wrong?

In terms of fire risk, ten thousand gasoline cars are worse. And they have to be fueled because the cars are driven in and out of the carrier.

EV fires are harder to put out, but in every other way this isn't different from any other car carrier

Re: BYD just launched the largest car carrier to charge up its global EV ambitions

#30

Ten thousand EV batteries packed into a ship’s hull. What could go wrong?

I actually assumed that was part of the impetus for creating their own ship – standard cargo ships probably aren't well-suited to the job and simultaneously are a bit concerned about transporting such cargo.

Specialized car carriers are fairly common. Maybe they added some changes to make this one especially well suited for EVs, like modified fire suppression systems. But it may well be a standard ro-ro ship with an LNG engine.
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