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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
From your POV yes. But obviously not from Drew's POV. Now that we established everyone have different POV and a sense of what is right and wrong how do we proceed from here?
By listening to different points of view and deciding what best makes sense to us. That is why suppressing speech(es) is wrong.
That is fair. What is your counter argument Drew?
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this is not a charitable take. The writing is balanced and he highlights that this is his subjective opinion and preference. Your comment is hyperbole and blows the whole thing out of proportion.
He highlights that this is his subjective opinion and preference right before announcing that he’s going to try and stop the talk from happening by sitting down on the stage. I think this is an extraordinarily rude thing to do at a volunteer led event and really demands a better justification than subjective dislike.
You could say the same about any peaceful protest, whether it's this, climate, politics, or etc. I don't have a strong opinion about this specific talk happening, but I think that if you see something that's wrong in the world, you should try to right it, extremes notwithstanding.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
From your POV yes. But obviously not from Drew's POV. Now that we established everyone have different POV and a sense of what is right and wrong how do we proceed from here?
By listening to different points of view and deciding what best makes sense to us. That is why suppressing speech(es) is wrong.
A protest like this is basically just IRL adblock. Do you not use ad blockers because of "free speech" ideology?
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#25By all means let them sponsor open source events, we’ll just take the benefits. If that means listening to their latest swindle then so be it, small price to pay. Isn’t this what the phrase “useful idiots” was invented for?
So conference organizers get in on the grift while the community is robbed by whatever crypto scam/other bullshit this guy sells on stage? I guess it's fine if they also add a large and prominent "THIS GUY IS TRYING TO ROB YOU" banner to the stage and livestreams.
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#26I don't know how someone could look at Dorsey/Musk/Bezos actions and still be interested in what they have to say. There's probably a lot to be learned from someone who worships money, assuming that your goal is to emulate them. However their lifestyle and ideology is inherently dangerous to workers and life on earth as we know it. So yeah I don't really care what they have to say beyond knowing how the enemy views t…
What other person started a rocket company from scratch and got them landing? Of course I want to hear everything he says. Yes, he's crazy - seems to be a requirement if you want to do such stuff. Doesn't mean I will ignore it. I can think for myself, it's not like I take everything at face value.
All that to say, perhaps other people don't prioritize values like you do. The technical excellence that companies repeatedly achieved under Musk is incredible.
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#27I don't know how someone could look at Dorsey/Musk/Bezos actions and still be interested in what they have to say. There's probably a lot to be learned from someone who worships money, assuming that your goal is to emulate them. However their lifestyle and ideology is inherently dangerous to workers and life on earth as we know it. So yeah I don't really care what they have to say beyond knowing how the enemy views t…
It is exactly that. Americans think of themselves as temporarily poor and embarrassed millionaires.
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Are you hackers or what?
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
He highlights that this is his subjective opinion and preference right before announcing that he’s going to try and stop the talk from happening by sitting down on the stage. I think this is an extraordinarily rude thing to do at a volunteer led event and really demands a better justification than subjective dislike.
You could say the same about any peaceful protest, whether it's this, climate, politics, or etc. I don't have a strong opinion about this specific talk happening, but I think that if you see something that's wrong in the world, you should try to right it, extremes notwithstanding.
I could not say the same about any peaceful protest because most peaceful protests are not held to disrupt volunteer-led events. I don’t agree that you should try and enforce your personal preferences for who deserves a conference speaking slot by declaring you’ll try and prevent those you don’t approve of from taking the stage.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
By listening to different points of view and deciding what best makes sense to us. That is why suppressing speech(es) is wrong.
A protest like this is basically just IRL adblock. Do you not use ad blockers because of "free speech" ideology?
It's more like installing adblock in the computers of everyone in a room without asking for permission.