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Banning TikTok Is Unconstitutional. The Supreme Court Must Step In

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Re: Banning TikTok Is Unconstitutional. The Supreme Court Must Step In

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Post by CubsFan1060 »

Ateoto wrote: post #13
breadwinner wrote: post #9

TikTok is NOT being banned. TikTok can continue unmodified if it transfers ownership to anyone outside China.

What happens if they refuse to transfer ownership?

Sounds like they are preparing to shut down in the US.

I don't think there's any reason they can't continue as a web app. I think American companies are barred from doing business with them.

https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-will-reportedly-shut-down-its-app...

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Post by qoez »

Jimmc414 wrote: post #2

First, let me preface that I despise TikTok and I think it is mostly garbage content-wise, however this proposal is simply un-American. Concerns about data privacy and foreign influence are legit, but banning an entire communication platform used by 170 million Americans based on hypothetical threats goes against core First Amendment principles especially considering the government's inability to provide concrete evi…

Wouldn't seem very un-american to prohibit a radio station with a pro soviet leaning stance during the cold war

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Post by qingcharles »

Jimmc414 wrote: post #2

First, let me preface that I despise TikTok and I think it is mostly garbage content-wise, however this proposal is simply un-American. Concerns about data privacy and foreign influence are legit, but banning an entire communication platform used by 170 million Americans based on hypothetical threats goes against core First Amendment principles especially considering the government's inability to provide concrete evi…

Anyone who receives garbage content on TikTok has likely gotten themselves into a bad set of recommendations. I watched someone yesterday cycling through their feed and it was 100% brainrot.

My feed is very enjoyable: mostly neat cinematography tutorials, AI news, and just a little bit of OIIA.

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Post by psunavy03 »

TikTok is not being banned. TikTok is being required to sell to a non-Chinese stakeholder in order to mitigate the national security threat of it being indirectly controlled by the Chinese Communist Party.

These are not the same thing, and it's depressing how vulnerable people seem to be to propaganda anymore. No one can even read a legal brief or a law.

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Post by [deleted] »

elmerfud wrote: post #18
fsflover wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> American platforms are already banned in China. So if Americans are discriminated in China, would you suggest to do the same with the Chinese in US?

That's making a false analogy and is a logical fallacy trying to compare the two. Finding ways to level international trade to ensure fair trading and equal access to markets is definitely within the government's purview to do and within the national interests of our country. One rule that I would like to see implemented to equalize trade is to not allow foreign citizens or corporations to be able to purchase real es…

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Re: Banning TikTok Is Unconstitutional. The Supreme Court Must Step In

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Post by otterley »

breadwinner wrote: post #9

TikTok is NOT being banned. TikTok can continue unmodified if it transfers ownership to anyone outside China.

The ACLU is staffed with extremely competent First Amendment attorneys and yet they seem to be intentionally muddying the water about this. As a 1A scholar (and ACLU supporter) myself, I find it extremely frustrating.

Re: Banning TikTok Is Unconstitutional. The Supreme Court Must Step In

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Post by wedn3sday »

Another bad take by the nazi defenders over at the ACLU. If the same people behind tiktok tried to buy the Washington Post or CNN they would be blocked by existing laws prohibiting foreign adversaries from controlling American media companies, but somehow its fine if its social media? For better or worse social media is where a huge amount of people get their news these days, and unless we want Putin to run the NYT we need laws in place to stop foreign billionaires from filling the discourse with Russian/Chinese/Saudi propaganda (more than they already do).
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