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Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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Post by bayindirh »

naturalpb wrote: post #16
petargyurov wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very myopic take on things. > dictate truth What about the damage done by the millions of lies that people post on the platform to spread their bigoted agendas? What about how these platforms' algorithms ostensibly promote hatred and shocking material? Just look at the Rohingya massacre [0] and tell me you're OK with it. [0] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...

Opting for community notes rather than provably biased fact-checkers is akin to massacre, got it.

That’s a shallow take. Opting for community notes without any fact checking will transform truth from facts to “loudest voice”. So, who can yell louder will be accepted as the flag of truth, which is very dangerous.

Of course, if you like your propaganda well-done, Facebook will be a great place for that.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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Post by naturalpb »

bayindirh wrote: post #21
naturalpb wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Opting for community notes rather than provably biased fact-checkers is akin to massacre, got it.

That’s a shallow take. Opting for community notes without any fact checking will transform truth from facts to “loudest voice”. So, who can yell louder will be accepted as the flag of truth, which is very dangerous. Of course, if you like your propaganda well-done, Facebook will be a great place for that.

You're right, it's a shallow take in response to a straw man of my position. Clearly content moderation is a HARD problem and the decision-makers at Facebook know this better than almost anyone. They made a decision that presumably was in their best interest, of which I happen to support.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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Post by brink »

bobjordan wrote: post #10
naturalpb wrote: post #3

Funny, I just signed up for a Facebook account this week after the news,having deleted mine in 2017. In my opinion, they are taking a step in the right direction. Clearly others disagree, which is their right. What isn't someone's right is to dictate truth, which is what Facebook will ostensibly do less of. Bravo

After living in China for 10 years and experiencing true suppression of freedom of speech, the desire of many here in America to silence others in the name of curbing "misinformation" is wild to me. I have no desire to replicate what they have in China here in America. Free speech is a precious thing on this planet. The only acceptable solution to speech one doesn't like or agree with is more free speech. Silencing p…

It's the cult of superficial thought. Hate speech is a small price to pay for the fight against censorship. But there is a not-insignificant amount of people that look at the hate speech, think it should be censored because it's bad, and literally think no further about the potential consequences of censorship.

Yes, lies are bad and dangerous, but censorship is much worse and far more dangerous.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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Post by petargyurov »

naturalpb wrote: post #16
petargyurov wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very myopic take on things. > dictate truth What about the damage done by the millions of lies that people post on the platform to spread their bigoted agendas? What about how these platforms' algorithms ostensibly promote hatred and shocking material? Just look at the Rohingya massacre [0] and tell me you're OK with it. [0] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...

Opting for community notes rather than provably biased fact-checkers is akin to massacre, got it.

Not sure what anyone here gains from a reductive comment like this. In case it wasn't clear, obviously that's not what I'm saying -- I was curious why you'd be OK with a reduction in fact checking when the platform is a means to such despicable acts.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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Post by louthy »

naturalpb wrote: post #24
bayindirh wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a shallow take. Opting for community notes without any fact checking will transform truth from facts to “loudest voice”. So, who can yell louder will be accepted as the flag of truth, which is very dangerous. Of course, if you like your propaganda well-done, Facebook will be a great place for that.

You're right, it's a shallow take in response to a straw man of my position. Clearly content moderation is a HARD problem and the decision-makers at Facebook know this better than almost anyone. They made a decision that presumably was in their best interest, of which I happen to support.

> They made a decision that presumably was in their best interest

They're making a decision based on political pressure.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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Post by DavidPiper »

naturalpb wrote: post #12
lawlessone wrote: post #6

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That's great, what was it you were worried you couldn't say there?

I consume on social platforms, rather than creating. I was growingly aware of the platform's bias on the content I saw and opted out for reality (as close as one can get to it, anyway). The changes this week are a step in the right direction as other viewpoints are more possible, let alone tolerated.

> opted out for reality (as close as one can get to it, anyway)

I'm genuinely curious to know what about reality warrants "as close as one can get to it". In my experience, every time I close the browser and step outside I'm generally convinced that what I'm experiencing is real.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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Post by naturalpb »

DavidPiper wrote: post #29
naturalpb wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I consume on social platforms, rather than creating. I was growingly aware of the platform's bias on the content I saw and opted out for reality (as close as one can get to it, anyway). The changes this week are a step in the right direction as other viewpoints are more possible, let alone tolerated.

> opted out for reality (as close as one can get to it, anyway) I'm genuinely curious to know what about reality warrants "as close as one can get to it". In my experience, every time I close the browser and step outside I'm generally convinced that what I'm experiencing is real.

Precisely. As humans, we use our senses to discover what is true and to what degree. When online, there's always a reality distortion machine running; the question is how much distortion is taking place
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