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Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#22
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Well, it looks like Quickwit was going to add an Enterprise license as of earlier this year (PR #5529), which I had been keeping eyes on, but this announcement says they're instead going to relicense as Apache 2.0 so the "community can continue on": > We will be focused on building a new product with Datadog, and to ensure our open-source community can continue, we will soon release a major update of both Quickwit wi…

"So, it looks like we'll get a more liberally licensed Quickwit, but reading between the lines suggests development of it is might otherwise be winding down?" They will stop fulltime day-to-day effort in it themselves, probably because they have been relocated to writing a similar service but closed and integrated in DD, but it seems they want to opensource the current product with a OSI compliant license in the hope…

They bought Vector - it was always opensource

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#23
> Mezmo recently put in production Quickwit to serve thousands of customers and petabytes of logs, drastically reducing infrastructure cost and complexity while delivering the same user experience.

I can't imagine they feel great about Quickwit getting bought by a competitor after that.

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#24
post #9

Well, it looks like Quickwit was going to add an Enterprise license as of earlier this year (PR #5529), which I had been keeping eyes on, but this announcement says they're instead going to relicense as Apache 2.0 so the "community can continue on": > We will be focused on building a new product with Datadog, and to ensure our open-source community can continue, we will soon release a major update of both Quickwit wi…

"So, it looks like we'll get a more liberally licensed Quickwit, but reading between the lines suggests development of it is might otherwise be winding down?" They will stop fulltime day-to-day effort in it themselves, probably because they have been relocated to writing a similar service but closed and integrated in DD, but it seems they want to opensource the current product with a OSI compliant license in the hope…

Vector was already OSS when they acquired the company that created it, timber.

https://www.datadoghq.com/blog/datadog-acquires-timber-techn...

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#25

Co-founder of Quickwit here. Seeing our acquisition by Datadog on the HN front page feels like a truly full-circle moment. HN has been interwoven with Quickwit's journey from the very beginning. Looking back, it's striking to see how our progress is literally chronicled in our HN front-page posts: - Searching the web for under $1000/month [0] - A Rust optimization story [1] - Decentralized cluster membership in Rust…

I think you forgot to add the links

Anyway tantivy is great! I love pg_search https://www.paradedb.com/blog/introducing_search (which appears to be built by another company, but on top of tantivy, which is a great feature of open source)

Now, I am worried about development being stalled after this acquisition. How does further developing tantivy in the open helps Datadog's bottom line?

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(disclaimer: supabase employee) OrioleDB continues to be a fully open source and liberally licensed. We're working with the OrioleDB team to provide an initial distribution channel so they can focus on the storage engine vs hosting + providing lots of user feedback/bug reports. Our shared goal is to advance OrioleDB until it becomes the go-to storage engine for Postgres, both on Supabase and everywhere else. Happy to…

Please forgive and help remedy my ignorance: it's a coherent goal to want OrioleDB to be the go-to storage engine for Postgres, on Supabase?

I don't want to hijack Datadogs+Quickwit's post comment section with unrelated promotional-looking info. Quick summary below but if you have any other questions pls tag olirice in a Supabase GH discussion.

The OrioleDB storage engine for postgres is a drop-in replacement for the default heap method. Its takes advantage of modern hardware (e.g. SSDs) and cloud infrastructure. The most basic benefit is that throughput at scale is > 5x higher than heap [1], but it also is architected for a bunch of other cool stuff [2]. copy-on-write unblocks branching. row-level-WAL enables an S3 backend and scale-to-zero compute. The combination of those two makes it a suitable target for multi-master.

So yes, given that it could greatly improve performance on the platform, it is a goal to release in Supabase's primary image once everything is buttoned up. Note that an OrioleDB release doesn't take away any of your existing options. Its implemented as an extension so users would be able to optionally create all heap tables, all orioledb tables, or a mix of both.

[1] https://www.orioledb.com/blog/orioledb-beta7-benchmarks

[2] https://www.orioledb.com/docs

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please forgive and help remedy my ignorance: it's a coherent goal to want OrioleDB to be the go-to storage engine for Postgres, on Supabase?

I don't want to hijack Datadogs+Quickwit's post comment section with unrelated promotional-looking info. Quick summary below but if you have any other questions pls tag olirice in a Supabase GH discussion. The OrioleDB storage engine for postgres is a drop-in replacement for the default heap method. Its takes advantage of modern hardware (e.g. SSDs) and cloud infrastructure. The most basic benefit is that throughput…

Makes sense, perhaps the previous commenter thought OrioleDB was itself a database rather than an implementation detail alternative to current databases. That's what I thought before I went to their site.

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#30
I hate Datadog. We use their name as an epithet at our company for how not to sell/market. Their selling tactics circa 2015-2018 completely burned us out. Endless calls and emails. The icing on the cake was an AWS reInvent presentation on Lambda right when lambda was first announced. We were pumped to get in on lambda early. Got the whole crew to attend the talk. Turned out to be a rudimentary copy of a Barr "lambda up and running" blog wrapped in a stand up comedy routine hawked by a Datadog employee who made sure to tell us he was a Datadog employee. Get us all drunk and happy and think Datadog is cool.

Genuine question: has the company changed enough in the interim to deserve a second look?

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