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Calling women 'household objects' now permitted on Facebook

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Re: Calling women 'household objects' now permitted on Facebook

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I am all for real free speech about anything. It's just never real free speech; it's always censored and influenced (drowned out or amplified which is basically the same thing) in some direction. X is not free speech and this won't be either. What I do hope is that this will drive the banning of Meta, X and others from the EU. I know this will hurt a lot of people short term, but long term, we might be the only part…

When Zuck said on Jan 7th, 2025, that he wants to work with President Trump to oppose states threatening free speech, he wasn't talking about China. It was 100% the EU and its regulations. The quid pro quo starts to emerge.

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What happened to Zuckerberg? I thought they were the Democrat side, they had to testify in congress about it, and now Musk bought out twitter and the Republicans won the elections. Is this a move to avoid getting facebook and instagram getting killed somehow by twitter and the republican government?

> I thought they were the Democrat side, they had to testify in congress about it

Maybe you thought wrong.

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I am all for real free speech about anything. It's just never real free speech; it's always censored and influenced (drowned out or amplified which is basically the same thing) in some direction. X is not free speech and this won't be either. What I do hope is that this will drive the banning of Meta, X and others from the EU. I know this will hurt a lot of people short term, but long term, we might be the only part…

I think the people most influenced be terrible influences by people like Musk are those that mirror this opinion.

Banning social media sites is a pretty draconian approach that probably will not work anyway and I believe it to be completely reactionary. The EU formerly did have influence on Twitter content. They lost that and aren't too happy about that.

I think it was a necessary correction and I don't want to live in the EU silo and I don't trust their DSA "trusted flaggers". What do they ban next, HN? I don't think it has official fact checkers either.

Re: Calling women 'household objects' now permitted on Facebook

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I just hope we can get past the era of people, and the media, being so outraged by everything.

> I just hope we can get past the era of people, and the media, being so outraged by everything.

When do you think that era started?

Re: Calling women 'household objects' now permitted on Facebook

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What happened to Zuckerberg? I thought they were the Democrat side, they had to testify in congress about it, and now Musk bought out twitter and the Republicans won the elections. Is this a move to avoid getting facebook and instagram getting killed somehow by twitter and the republican government?

He's an opportunist, always has been, always will be. Opportunists don't have sides: they roll all the times.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those two things certainly aren't in conflict, jailing your own people is pretty typical.

You didn’t watch the report, did you? It was a clear setup

Yes, but not by CNN, even though they should have known better.

Re: Calling women 'household objects' now permitted on Facebook

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I am all for real free speech about anything. It's just never real free speech; it's always censored and influenced (drowned out or amplified which is basically the same thing) in some direction. X is not free speech and this won't be either. What I do hope is that this will drive the banning of Meta, X and others from the EU. I know this will hurt a lot of people short term, but long term, we might be the only part…

Do you mean free speech as in not getting the government after you, or free speech as in not getting beaten by the guy next to you? Because I cannot imagine the second category ever happening - if you live in a society you must weigh your words. Internet made spewing hate around a viable option (difficult to get beaten when you swear at people online) so now some expect it also in their real lives.

Re: Calling women 'household objects' now permitted on Facebook

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post #24

What happened to Zuckerberg? I thought they were the Democrat side, they had to testify in congress about it, and now Musk bought out twitter and the Republicans won the elections. Is this a move to avoid getting facebook and instagram getting killed somehow by twitter and the republican government?

> I thought they were the Democrat side, they had to testify in congress about it Maybe you thought wrong.

Are you saying they were pushing the same thing twitter / Musk does? Openly or secretely? Or that he just switched sides when convenient?

I genuinely want to understand this, I'm not american.

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